Yeah I know this is costing me 30p a minute or whatever you said but I say when we put in our erm, haha, costs in the courts this going to be peanuts. Well that was pretty unexciting I will say, you don't lead a very exciting life on the internet, you should get out more I think, erm, well of course you keep jetsetting off to New York or whereever you go I mean essentially all I've found out about you looking at this lot is that you are pretty obsessed, well perhaps you do it for a job whatever, with Linux particularly De-bian/Deb-ian and that's all you seem to post about really, no music, no outside interests, no nothing. I mean I now know you went to Wesleyan University and Durham University and you work or did work at Creative whatever-they-are, Creative Technologies or whoever they are in New York and that's pretty much. So I'll get my mate Roger to erm, continue his, erm, private investigating type work I think he'll get on rather better than me, for once. Okay, bye then. Mmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmmm.