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Thu Jun 08 02:17:42 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 8 02:17:45 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 7 23:40:32 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09647 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:40:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13004 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:40:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 17277 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 22:40:30 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 22:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 24802 invoked by uid 610); 7 Jun 2000 22:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24573 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 22:38:58 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 22:38:58 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12zoTR-000EIO-00 for mark-thomas@gbnet.net; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:38:57 +0100 Message-ID: <003701bfd0d1$3d7233a0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Subject: [mt] Fw: shac Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:39:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:35 PM Subject: shac > you may be interested to know that i now own > www.huntingdonlifesciences.co.uk . i told greg and he now owns the .org.uk > and the .net > > i have set up redirection so anyone accessing my site will in fact end up at > the shac site and any emails will go to the shac mailbox > > think HLS will be just a little bit miffed when they realise and they may > withdraw their offer of a trip round (i am a journalist > who has given a fair bit to the nationals about HLS) > > andrew gay their pr person can't do enough for me and always trys to answer > my awkward questions > > i have spoken to mark thomas's researcher at vera about ideas i have for a > follow up on the imutran story as the work is of course being carried out at > HLS. they seem quite intersted > > ian gomeche > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 15 01:20:05 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 15 01:20:03 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 14 19:16:30 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15545 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:15:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA21120 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:15:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 20103 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 18:15:35 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 18:15:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15933 invoked by uid 610); 14 Jun 2000 18:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15726 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 2000 18:14:30 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 15723 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 18:14:28 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 18:14:28 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.177] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132HgF-0007kg-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bfd62c$6fc43d20$b15608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] norwich Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:14:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk pete asked about norwich. i know it well as lived there for most of my life and plan to return there soon as this is a mark thomas list, i feel i should point out that Her Majesties Stationary Office is in norwich (big building near anglia square) so phone up and order all those goverment papers relating to mark's stories . i presume you can wander in any buy stuff on the spot but may be good idea to phone first. castle is nice if you are into that sort of thing (battlements and dungeons) castle mall shopping er mall nearby is cool. generally i hate shopping malls but this one is nice and well laid out with some interesting shops and coffee bars. cathedral and cathedral close nice to walk round as is nearby pulls ferry. elm hill very picturesque (sic) lots of cobbles etc. colemans mustard shop near st andrews stangers hall museum nearby covered market in front of city hall - cockle and muscle stalls etc jarrolds is good dept store majoring in books and stationary (they are major publishers) [thats enough sights - ed] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 15 04:48:24 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 15 13:09:30 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 12:16:58 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19990 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:16:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA32449 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:16:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 18981 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 11:16:52 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 11:16:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18236 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 11:16:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18058 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 11:15:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 18055 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 11:15:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 11:15:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.28] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132Xcf-0006Dc-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:15:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bfd6bb$1d643c80$1c5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] norwich corrections Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:16:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk harry corrected me thusly: ----- > At 7:14 pm +0100 14/6/00, ian gomeche wrote: > >pete asked about norwich. > > > >i know it well as lived there for most of my life and plan to return there > >soon > > Don't say it - do it! I was stuck in Ipswich for 9 years!! > > >as this is a mark thomas list, i feel i should point out that Her Majesties > >Stationary Office is in norwich (big building near anglia square) so phone > >up and order all those goverment papers relating to mark's stories . i > >presume you can wander > >in any buy stuff on the spot but may be good idea to phone first. > > Especially as they've almost pulled out. > > >castle is nice if you are into that sort of thing (battlements and dungeons) > > Currently being refurbished. > > >elm hill very picturesque (sic) lots of cobbles etc. > > Not at the moment - Anglia Water have ripped load up and tarmac-ed > over, "temporarily" :-/ > > >colemans mustard shop near st andrews > > Oh, no it isn't. It's now in the Royal Arcade IIRC. > > > Other than that, spot on ;-) > > H > o.k. i stand corrected. i haven't been to norwich for a couple of years. the mustard shop definitely used to be on bridewell alley next to strangers hall. oh well i also forgot to mention the hours of fun you could have on rouen road (road to ruin) incidentally all this stuff someone posted about spy cameras etc has reminded me to tell you about the surveillance list forum (SLF) -assuming you don't know already- a mailing list run by a guy called spyking. they claim to have 7000 members. i get it and it's usually pretty interesting. although U.S. biassed , there are often UK items very much in the mark thomas spirit. to subscribe visit spyking's website www.spyking.com +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 15 14:30:47 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 15 14:30:53 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 14:30:32 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01418 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:30:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12286 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:30:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 15859 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 13:30:29 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 13:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16034 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 13:24:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15610 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 13:23:29 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 15535 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 13:23:13 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 13:23:13 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.177] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132Zbz-0009Ub-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:23:12 +0100 Message-ID: <00a201bfd6cc$e6495020$1c5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] norwich shags Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:23:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk scotty wrote: I don't suppose you'd be interested in which toilets are good for shags then... *BIG cackle* Scott xxx well i wasn't especially, but thinking about it i suppose the fancy electronic automated stainless steel ones at the top of st stephens street near the bus station must have a certain potential particularly if you like doing it the shower something else to to do in norwich is to gatecrash delia smith's pad and get a good nosh ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:42:53 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:42:54 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 15:36:55 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09968 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:36:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18899 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:36:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 239 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 14:36:48 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 14:36:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27459 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 14:08:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 26612 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 14:05:19 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 25812 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 14:02:14 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 14:02:14 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.177] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132aDk-000AYX-00; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <00d401bfd6d2$587804c0$1c5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Cc: , Subject: [mt] ronseal w*****s Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:02:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk you might find this amusing [not a chance - ed] i read an article in Sunday Times about domain names. essentially it said that a good name was probably more important in cyberspace than in the conventional business world. article went on to say that 'does what it says on the tin' names e.g. www.watches.com were partularly strong. as i have a sideline in domain names (anyone want to buy www.stcakes.com , www.vladtheimpaler.co.uk or www.theydontlikeitupem.com etc etc ?) i thought 'yeah that would make a good name for my venture' so i went off and registered www.itdoeswhatitsaysonthetin.com and .co.uk anyway as i am currently strapped for cash i phoned ronseal in sheffield and asked steve gibson their marketing man whether they would like to buy them but i had no idea how much i wanted (i.e. i was not trying to extract huge amounts of cash from them) when i phoned him a few days later (having noticed that they had just rushed off and registered ronseal.net , .org and .org.uk as they must have thought i was going to blag those too) he said he could not buy them . i said why not? he said he had placed the matter in hands of their lawyers today i got a letter from messers sue grabbit and runne which was extremely heavy . there was a lengthy thing for me to sign agreeing to pay their costs and hand the names over - funny, that's why i phoned them in the first plsce. it claimed i had created an 'instrument of fraud' they also demanded a share of my profits . [what profits - ed ?] if i haven't signed within 7 days they will start proceedings needless to say i will not let these plonkers bully and bankrupt me, so of course i will not sign. what i DID do was phone private eye as they love a good story about huge companies getting heavy with small individuals. private eye said that they had just gone to press but they reckoned it was a good one for the nationals so i will give it to someone like chris booker on the sunday telegraph who does a lot on behalf of small business men i mean ,who i have i tried to defraud ? not my fault if INTERNIC and NOMINET rules say registration is stricly on a first come basis. i wanted www.ikg.com as my company is ikg associates uk ltd but some american outfit had got there first. did i sent them a heavy legal letter? of course not, i just registered www.ikg.co.uk also not my fault if ronseal did not bother to register any names of value to them the amount ronseal have spent on lawyers SO FAR is probably more that i would have wanted for them and even if a court does make me hand them over i will expect some compensation for my registration fees and time and hassle the adverse publicity they will receive will probably not be worth the candle particularly as i am NOT some cyberterrorist-squatter trying to exhort zillions out of ronseal without prejudice (copy going to ronseal and their hotshot lawyers) [always put this on ANYTHING you send anyone which may have legal implications - ed] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:43:51 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:43:50 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 16:48:29 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24830 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:48:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26501 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:47:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 25095 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 15:48:02 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 15:48:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24118 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 15:38:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23229 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 15:34:27 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 22182 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 15:30:20 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 15:30:20 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.177] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132bb1-000DMU-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:30:19 +0100 Message-ID: <01d801bfd6de$a19762c0$1c5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: purchase of domain? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:30:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk this might also amuse you [who are you trying to kid - ed] there was an item on spitting image( i think) '1001 uses for a bjork' well i have just found one ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Marius Olafsson To: ian gomeche Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: Re: purchase of domain? > > > > i would like to purchase the domain name chr.is if it is still available . > > problem is i don't speak any icelandic so i can't make any sense ofyour > > registration site > > > Please note that registration under the geographic domain IS is available > ONLY to icelandic companies (registered in the national complany registry) > and individual icelandic citizens (registered in the icelandic national > registry). > > The applicaton instructions and rules are therefore in icelandic only > (http://www.isnet.is/is/dom-skraning.html) > > Application forms are also only in icelandic, available as > (ftp://ftp.isnet.is/pub/isnet/umsokn/domain.umsokn.ps) > > Short summary translation in english: > > 1. Applicant must be a registered entity in Iceland (SSN#) > > 2. Name must be related to organization name - servicemarks or > trademarks can be used if prior use and ownership is established. > Certain names are reserverd. > > 3. Only one name per organization, unless ownership is established > via trademark registration. > > 4. DNS servers must be contain valid data at the time of application > (names can not be reserved) > > 5. Fees > > IKR 10.000 One time registration fee, includes first year > maintenance fee (not including VAT). > IKR 6.360 Yearly maintenace fee (not including VAT) > > Contact me again if you have questions... > > -- > Marius Olafsson > INTIS/ISnet > IS TLD Administrator > hostmaster@[redacted].is > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:44:23 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:44:24 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 18:33:19 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22493 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:33:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05042 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:32:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 19365 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 17:33:13 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 17:33:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20337 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 17:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19133 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 17:14:43 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 18581 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 17:12:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 17:12:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.208] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132dCB-000G4S-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:12:47 +0100 Message-ID: <008501bfd6ec$feef8840$d05608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] small pea for help Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:13:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i was very grateful today to get replies both on and off list to my postings. thank you all. what was not so gratifying was to read what i had posted again and again and again when skimming down the digests as people were quoting my whole message each time. this seems to happen a lot on mailing lists and can easily be avoided by some very tough 'pruning' so only relevant bits are repeated. i personally like to put things like 'fred was discussing whatever' which i think we would probably agree is easier to cope with then having to read everything that fred said again and again i haven't been here long [long enough to piss everone off - ed] but i reckon this is a great list and i say that advisedly having been on lists full of intollerent narrow minded nitpickers ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:44:27 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:44:29 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 19:04:04 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05871 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:04:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08044 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:03:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 27497 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 18:04:02 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 18:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1157 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 18:03:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 967 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 18:02:59 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 964 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 18:02:58 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 18:02:58 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.208] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132dyj-000IPl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:02:58 +0100 Message-ID: <00d401bfd6f4$009089e0$d05608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] ronseal Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:03:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk james wrote: 'but that you contacted them at all turns you, in the eyes of many, into exactly what you later say you aren't - a domain name squatter.' no i don't think so at all . if i had bought www.ronseal.net say with the specific intention of selling it back to ronseal at huge profit then that would be squatting. when i purchased mine, as i have already explained ,i bought them because the phrase was mentioned in the Sunday Times. i bought then for my own use and did not even think about selling them to ronseal. it was only later that i decided to sell them and gave ronseal first refusal. i also made it clear that i did not really expect a massive amout for them. i never tried to hold ronseal to ransom which is what i believe differentiates a cybersquatter. for example i own bol.ly (lybia) and i am currently in discussions with champagne bollinger. again i do not see this as cybersqatting as i don't supposed they have trade marked bolly. it is just a name which particularly after 'absolutely fabulous' is associated with their product ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:44:35 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:44:36 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 19:26:53 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16468 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:26:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10896 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:26:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 1623 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 18:26:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 18:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 4612 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 18:22:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4175 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 18:21:06 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4082 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 18:20:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 18:20:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.208] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132eFr-000IpH-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: <00de01bfd6f6$7953d7e0$d05608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters and SHAC Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:21:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk now regarding my ownership of www.jeffersonairplane.co.uk and www.jeffersonstarship.co.uk welll!!! actually i bought them cos i like the band and will probably keep them not sure what EMI or whoever will do about my www.emersonlakeandpalmer.com (who they ?- anyone under 30 asks) anyway i don't see anything that morally wrong about buying any domain names which i am legally allowed to buy. INTERNIC and NOMINET can't be arsed to check who is buying what so why should i care. i tend to only buy very few names like this as generally the legal hassles arent worth it. different people have different attitudes. oasis came down hard on several unofficial tribute web sites although they were hardly harming their sales. other groups and artists welcome the free publicity from tribute sites (i know cos i have spoken to a few managers) then there is the case of www.huntingdonlifesciences.co.uk which i own and the relevant .net, .org, .org.uk which greg of SHAC owns. we now have all of these pointing to the shac site. this clearly could be seen as cybersquatting and we expect to get lawyers letters at some point (greg is posively relishing being taken to court yet again, i'm not quite so keen to be honest) we are not profiting from these and are in fact out of pocket but surely many people would say that anything legal which helps publicise thwe fight against HLS is justified .apparently SHAC spoke to the FT today about the domain names and they may well run a story. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:45:01 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:45:02 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 15 23:18:44 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10394 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA00825 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:18:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 7382 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 22:18:43 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 22:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12001 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 22:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 11824 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 22:17:42 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 11820 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 22:17:41 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 22:17:41 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.106] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132hxE-00006D-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <00a701bfd717$967171e0$6a5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] re ronseal Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:18:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk steve kennedy wrote: By offering it, you made yourself, if not a cyber squatter, a domain trader - which is really just the same, hoping you had something of value - which could infringe on their name, and trying to make some money out of it. They offered to pay back your costs, which is reasonable if you weren't using it. no they did not offer to pay me any costs. they want me to sign something saying i will pay THEIR legal costs i have alredy said i am a domain trader . when i bought 'it does what it says on the tin' i was given the idea by the mention of that in the S.T. not with any thoughts of ronseal in mind. it has entered the language as a general phase not specifically associated with ronseal However you are approaching multiple companies, and have admitted this on a public list, which is publically archived ... your legal case is looking worse all the time . as a domain trader i will approach multiple companies as i er have multiple domains to sell ( a few hundred on fact). anyone would think i was selling child porn. the sunday times for christ's sake has a domain names section as does many papers now. perfectly legal i have noticed that the 2 people who have attacked me , james and steve kennedy both have @[redacted].net email addresses as does the mark thomas list. so are they related or is this just a coincidence. i think we should be told. i suppose james is the list owner ian.. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 01:45:18 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 01:45:20 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 00:40:48 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04136 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:40:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA07801 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:40:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 20614 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 23:40:45 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 23:40:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25514 invoked by uid 610); 15 Jun 2000 23:39:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25074 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2000 23:38:11 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 24856 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 23:37:28 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 23:37:28 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.106] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132jCR-0002GA-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: <011201bfd722$ba7d58a0$6a5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:37:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk james explained various thoughts on cybersquatting, trademarks and my own position i think this thread is getting a little worn, but as james raised some interesting and valid points, i thought i would say a little more. recent cases have given cybersquatters/domain traders/whatever a very bad name . i refer particuilarly to the guy who bougfht 200 authors names and tried to extort 3 percent of a year's royalties from them . in an interview with the authoress joanne whatshername (no not rowling) she said that she had seen red after she had spoken to the guy on the phone due to his extremely aqrrogant and threatening attitude. it was at that point she decided to 'do ' him by taking the case straight to ICANN (the international name disputes body) and larely bypassing the british legal system. as we all know ICANN found in her favour. i do not believe that i displayed the same arrogant aggresive approach to ronseal and in any case i do not have their name but something close to their trademark. i really do think this makes a difference. many companies have happily bought names back without going through the courts. i too have been round the internet for a while as i have 25 years IT experience. at one point i was the UK product manager for comms at Unisys when they were a major player in the mainframe market so i have lots of networking experience. i will probably do a CISCO certification course next month. i have certainly designed several packet switching networks (the basis of the net) anyway i digress. there are a lot of people in the domain trading business and i do believe it has a legitimate side. after all would it even have occured to anyone at bollinger that they could have bought bol.ly (a libyan domain) ? extremely unlikely. if they do buy it from me, i am sure they will take the view that i did them a favour not that i 'stole' something which was rightfully theirs. i also happen to be a trained jounalist and do some freelancing when i fancy. that is how i got involved with the guys at SHAC and why i have been invited for a supposed 'unrestricted' [who are they trying to kid? - ed] trip round HLS. i spoke about my investigations to nick deer at channel 4 and to geof atkinson at vera. they were pretty interested in my stuff and have passed it on the mark thomas for possible inclusion in the next series. as a result i know guys on most papers and particularly after my discussion with private eye today , believe i could get coverage of my battle with ronseal which showed me in a good light and not as some parasitic scumbag. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 15:29:12 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 15:29:11 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 13:12:39 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29925 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:12:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05661 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:13:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 2621 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 11:12:30 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 11:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10691 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 11:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10502 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 11:11:33 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 10499 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 11:11:33 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 11:11:33 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.206] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132u27-000DuR-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:11:31 +0100 Message-ID: <003501bfd783$b1b3c720$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:11:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk mark mentioned various domain names that are still available including several .ltd ones the .ltd (and .plc) domains are very strictly controlled. essentially it checks with companies house to ensure that you actually do have a limited or plc company of that exact name before it lets you register the name. it would thererfore be just a LITTLE tricky for you or i to register www.barclaysbank.ltd.uk on the other hand www.queenelizabeththequeenmother.com which i just happen to own is no problem (until i get marched off to the tower that is.) ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 15:29:30 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 15:29:28 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 14:49:10 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20810 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:49:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15553 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:49:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 22535 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 13:49:06 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 13:49:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3114 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 13:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2931 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 13:48:05 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 2928 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 13:48:05 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 13:48:05 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132wTc-000Hb1-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:48:04 +0100 Message-ID: <00e501bfd799$8f55db80$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: ronseal w*****S Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:48:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > yesterday morning (thurs) i phoned mark heany (ronseal's hotshot lawyer). > he returned my call at about 3 p.m. which was interesting as laywers will > only usually do things in writing and are generally unhappy about doing > things on the phone. > > i told him i was just about to send him an email (copy of the one i posted > here) so why didn't he go away, read that and then speak to me again. he > seemed a little put out and insisted on trying to talk to me right then > (believe me this really is a good sign when an opposing lawyer is pleading > to talk to you) . > > encouraged by all that, i phoned him again this morning . i repeated that i > had a good story for the press and told him of these 2 cases: > > there is the case of the BBC who have been getting heavy with a small > charitable computer club in british columbia who just happen to have been > using > www.bbc.org. for donkeys years. most comentators side very much with the > computer club. > > then there is the case of british airports authority getting heavy with some > guy who has a site devoted to sheep (don't think he is a perv but who > knows?) called www.baa.com > > both these sites are worth a visit - good for a laugh > > he said that , of course they did not want to take me to court so what did i > propose to do about the situation? again very encouraging when a lawyer says > things like that rather that continuing with the heavy brinkmanship. > > i said that my original plan seemed best whereby ronseal took the names off > me and compensated me for my time and expense. > > i pointed out thet i reckoned that i had done them a favour by alerting them > to the fact that ronseal.net , .org and org.uk > so they should be showing me a certain amount of gratitude. > > he said that ronseal were refusing to pay anything for the names. > > i asked him if they thought that domain names grew on trees and what about > the fact that i had payed for them and didn't > ronseal believe that things had to be paid for. > > anyway at that point i got very cross . i explained that ronseal were paying > a small fortune in legal fees when it would have > been easier and less unpleasant if they had just slipped me afew quid to go > away. i said i would speak to the press this afternoon about their totally > unnessary unpleasantness. i then hung up. > > watch this space! > > ian > > PS i will start a campign 'the newtonhill two ' - me and puss puss the cat > > PPS as captain bart mancuso said in my favourite film 'hunt for red october' > 'the important thing about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch' > > without prejudice > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 15:29:30 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 16 15:29:29 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 15:06:30 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02164 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:06:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA17260 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:06:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 25017 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 14:06:26 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 14:06:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5625 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 14:05:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 5451 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 14:05:17 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5447 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 14:05:16 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 14:05:16 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132wkF-000I38-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: <011d01bfd79b$f606b280$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] good book for the paranoid Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:05:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i am currently reading 'net spies - who's watching you on the web?' by andrew gauntlett on vision paperbacks ISBN: 1-901250-25-3 this is rather good for the conspiracy theorists amongst you. it has about 10 pages on memwith hill and some stuff on slayler that reminds me . i own domain name www.fannyhill.co.uk . do you think memwith and fanny might be related? i think we should be told! ian 'grassy' knoll (blatent viz rip off) +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 01:51:32 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 01:51:31 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 16:37:01 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28095 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:37:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27852 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:37:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 5961 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 15:36:47 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 15:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16920 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 15:34:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16475 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 15:33:13 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 15924 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 15:31:02 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 15:31:02 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132y5F-000KSb-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:31:02 +0100 Message-ID: <019d01bfd7a7$efe2ed40$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:31:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk chrisday@[redacted].net wrote ' 'Have to ask, Ian - why? Snapping up 100's of domain names which seem to hav= e no other purpose than to get money out of people does seem either a. way too money-led for my liking or b. just a kind of completist, ego thing' fair question i suppose . we do live in a materialist world. when you sit down to watch 'maqrk thomas show' how do you think that got to you and the thing you are watching it on. when i work on stories against HLS etc i use as much technology as possible. as i have said before domain name trading is essentially like car number plate trading and has sections in newspapers like the sunday times. it is a very risky business as apart from legal agro (did i really need all that crap from ronseal) . there is no certainty when or even if a name will sell. sensible traders realise it is a long term thing rather than a get rich quick scheme. generally i buy names like e-watches.org which no one can claim as theirs. sometimes i get frivollous and buy things like stcakes.com (which incidentally private eye had a laugh about when i told them) the queen mother one falls into that category and althought i might be able to sell it to a yank i really bought it just for fun. if st james' palace get heavy wth me then i will probably wish i hadn't bought it. sometimes i find it incredible that certain names are actually still available. i was really amazed to see emersonlakeandpalmer.com as their records are still selling in significant numbers. i therefore bought it which was probablu an unwise thing to . right. i have now spent enough time defending myself on all this ian the sleazy parasitic cybersquatter +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 01:51:36 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 01:51:35 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 17:14:21 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19502 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:14:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA32367 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:14:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 9246 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 16:14:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 21637 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 16:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21449 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 16:13:17 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21444 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 16:13:17 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 16:13:17 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 132yk7-000Ldu-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: <022201bfd7ad$d4c11180$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] sealand Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:13:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Sealand uber alles: Those who diligently followed commentary concerning the creation of a "data haven" on Sealand -- a... kingdom established in 1966 on a platform in the North Sea -- will likely take great pleasure in reading Wired's in-depth examination of the proposed anything-goes refuge outside the jurisdiction of the world's nation-states. Rife with helicopters and speedboats, booby-trapped machine rooms filled with an unbreathable pure nitrogen, and Roy Bates -- who long ago declared Sealand's independence from Great Britain and appointed himself its "prince" -- this story of far-fetched ideas and those who pursue them is worth the time it takes to read. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/haven_pr.html http://www.sealandgov.com/history.html http://freespace.virgin.net/line.design/forts/Essexfort.gif +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 01:51:52 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 01:51:51 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 19:19:16 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10994 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:19:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13368 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:19:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 25277 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 18:19:03 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 18:19:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8858 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 18:18:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8683 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 18:17:59 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 8680 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 18:17:59 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 18:17:59 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1330go-000OPl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: <034f01bfd7bf$33614000$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] the next big thing Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:17:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk comment on an email received by the uk.internet newsletter : 'the Next Big Thing: s-commerce. We were amused to learn that the concept is based on s-commerce centers - or shops - which are aggregated in convenient portals - or high streets. It's a long shot, but it just might work.' naaar! that will never catch on . far too radical! ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 01:51:57 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 01:51:57 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 20:35:28 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11232 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:35:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA19605 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:35:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 604 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 19:35:26 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 19:35:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14505 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 19:35:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14328 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 19:34:24 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14325 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 19:34:24 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 19:34:24 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1331sl-000Ptk-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:34:23 +0100 Message-ID: <040601bfd7c9$d6573120$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] quoi? Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:34:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk just read this in the digest: In message <4.3.2.7.2.20000616133715.025b3280@[redacted].open.ac.uk>, Mike Richards writes >At 01:25 PM 6/16/00 +0100, Chris Cotton wrote: >>At 12:29 16/06/00, Harry's MT Lists wrote: >>>At 11:28 pm +0100 15/6/00, bex wrote: er yes.? he says scratching his head in total confusion ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 01:51:59 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 01:51:57 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 16 21:33:33 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29043 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:33:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA23965 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:34:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 2905 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 20:33:27 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 20:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16955 invoked by uid 610); 16 Jun 2000 20:32:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16590 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 20:31:41 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 16516 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 20:31:23 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 20:31:23 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.12] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1332lu-0000wu-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:31:22 +0100 Message-ID: <042b01bfd7d1$bf97da40$ce5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] hutt river province Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:30:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk all this stuff about sealand reminds me of prince leopold of the hutt river province principality state in western australia. for those of you who don't know already, this guy had a major bust up with the state authorities over some wheat quotas or something. he got so fed up that he ceeded from australia and set up his own province. such was the amount of red tape that he tied the state up in , that to this day they haven't figured out how to get it back (i know i'll do that with ronseal) he now has a thriving tourist business and issues his own passports and honours to anyone who asks . this can be done through his very official looking web site at: http://www.wps.com.au/hutriver/hut1.htm ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 14:02:55 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 14:02:58 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 12:53:36 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29402 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:53:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14423 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:54:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 20398 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 11:53:33 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 11:53:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 9375 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 11:53:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9187 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 11:52:36 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 9184 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 11:52:35 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 11:52:35 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133H9K-000Dth-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:52:30 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bfd852$9567f800$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:52:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk official_secrets_act@[redacted].com wrote: Subject: Re: [mt] bloody cybersquatters I am seriously contemplating www.MI6.ly ;-) Without prejudice why not. it is still available. only problem is that .ly's are a bit pricey at $100 a pop ian without pride or prejudice +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 14:03:06 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 14:03:03 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 13:08:45 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01897 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:08:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15390 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:09:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 22145 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 12:08:39 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 12:08:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 10955 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 12:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10614 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 12:06:11 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 10400 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 12:05:19 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 12:05:19 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133HLi-000E6P-00; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:05:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002901bfd854$5f1dbc60$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: , "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] domain registrations Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:05:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk geoff wrote: Ian, Steve, anyone that's still out there, how do you register a foreign domain name. Can it be done here or do I have to do it through a contact in that country ? - -- there are a number of ways.and brokers. personally i buy .com , .net ,.org , ..co.uk , .org.uk from www.uk2.net as they seem both cheap and reliable and will take switch which many brokers won't. they charge £34 for a .com , .net or .org or £10.55 for a .co.uk or a .org.uk (includind all the extras like parking, forwarding of both web site and email and a few other things) i use www.register.com to by .ly , .gs etc etc as they have a number of foreign countries available (tried to buy kin.ky - gone unfortunately) this site is very good : http://www.norid.no/domreg.html .this links you to every national registry in the world. i really should check if going directly to the libyan registry through here (if it is intelligble) is cheaper that buying through www.register.com there are loads of other brokers but these are the one's i prefer hope this helps ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 14:03:07 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 14:03:09 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 13:13:17 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02597 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:13:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15644 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:13:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 22866 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 12:13:15 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 12:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 11982 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 12:12:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 11788 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 12:12:18 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 11785 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 12:12:17 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 12:12:17 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133HSS-000EEK-00; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01bfd855$58638480$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: , "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] domain registations Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:12:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk re foreign domains: i forgot to remind you that while most countries allow anyone anywhere to buy their domains e.g. libya (tobago is popular as you get all those welcome.to, fly.to ,go.to etc which i think geocities bought as a job lot so you can get welcome.to./moi or whatever from them free i think) some like as iceland , as i showed you will only sell to icelandic nationals or companies registered in iceland best to check it is best probably prudent to avoid tinpot african republics etc as they could well to a zimbabwe on you and just take the names back. also is it really a wise idea to send your credit card details to upper volta or whereever? methinks not ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 14:03:08 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 14:03:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 14:00:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09967 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:00:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18440 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:01:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 27355 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 13:00:47 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 13:00:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16631 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 13:00:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16424 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 12:59:49 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 16421 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 12:59:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 12:59:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133ICR-000F2M-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:59:47 +0100 Message-ID: <00e601bfd85b$fb12cc80$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] domain registrations and centralnic rip off artists Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:00:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk another very important thing to note is that while generally you are paying for 2 years regisration fees for .com , .co.uk etc some brokers are only giving 1 year. i have nearly been court out a few times by this when comparing costs. also you have to check what extras your getting beyond the actual registation fee. aslo note that you can register the big 5 (.com , .net . org . .co.uk ,.org.uk ) through your ISP but this tends to be expensive. when you want to build the site you will have to have it hosted somewhere and get some web space which needs thinking about.generally you can get this free for non-business use and for modest sized sites. this can all get quite confusing. for example my ISP registered my domain name www.ikg..co.uk at a rip off cost of £80 a year. this was done before i got wise to all this and when there were fewer domain name 'bucket shops' around (also nomonet greatrly reduced their registration fees to £5. my ISP currently hosts my domain name which means email essentially as my site is not yet build (think this is included in the £80 - bloody better be) when i build my site i will have to pay my ISP for business web space to hold the actual web site ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- note that there is a company called centralnic (trying to sound official like internic) who in my view are rip off artists. they sell the ghastly uk.com and gb.com etc things which people think are real domains . they are not . centalnic own www.uk.com and all they are 'renting' you is a subdomain of that which is in fact worth bugger all as they own the domain and you do not they chare £30 for a uk.com subdomain which in their blurb they claim makes an acceptable alternative to co.uk which clearly is bollocks. they have just launched eu.com to cash on the fact that the .eu TLD (top level domain) is coming out soon . very naughty ian ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 15:06:59 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 15:07:20 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 15:00:42 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20063 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:00:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA21971 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:01:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 29867 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 14:00:41 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19375 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 13:57:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 18954 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 13:56:10 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 13:56:10 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133J4y-000GN4-00 for mark-thomas@gbnet.net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:56:09 +0100 Message-ID: <011c01bfd863$da09cae0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Subject: [mt] domain costs Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:56:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk geoff asked : 'What does it cost, and what is involved in being able to register domain names?' -- well as i said in a previous email costs really do vary a lot and you need to shop around. each country sets it's own registration fees and the brokers add whatever mark up they like . as i said i like buying the big 5 from www.uk2.net you probably won't find anyone cheaper for .co.uk and .org.uk (£10.55) bearing in mind that includes extras but i expect someone is undercutting them on .com , .net , .org actually i was wrong about those cowboys at centralnic (www.centralnic.com) . they are charging £60 not £30 for their rip-off uk.com subdomains an MLM cowboy i know is doing something similar. all the suckers he gets into the business, he persuades to buy their own'site from him. he provides a crap site with a /subdomain name for £100. BTW i decided against cybersquatting www.gerryadams.org.uk which is still available as i don't suppose his associates would take just the legal letter approach of ronseal (TIC) ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 15:47:14 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 15:47:39 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 15:18:16 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23193 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:18:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22948 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:18:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 4135 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 14:18:14 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:18:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23717 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 14:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23535 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 14:17:08 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 23532 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 14:17:08 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:17:08 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133JPH-000Gl8-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:17:07 +0100 Message-ID: <014201bfd866$c7ac87e0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] domain registrations Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:17:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk geoff asked : 'What does it cost, and what is involved in being able to register domain names?' -------------------------------- i forgot to answer the second part. very simple really: 1. go to the broker of your choice 2.. check if the name is still available 3. fill in the online order form 4. give your credit card details 5. wait for it to work it's way through the system (takes 2 days or so) 6. check that name is now 'taken' and you are the registered owner. 7. then decide what to do about web site forwarding , email forwarding eic and whether you are happy to leave your name parked on the brokers site 8. build your site (or not if you just plan to sell the name) 8. er 9. that's it (more or less) 10. you should get a refund if the system finds the name you want has been snaffled by someone in the 2 day's it took for your order to work it's was through 11. note if ordering directly from a countries own registrar you may be asked for the primary and secondary server DNS addresses where the name is to be hosted. this is not necessary if buying through a broker as they will automatically submit their own DNS addresses as they will be initially hosting your name got all that? good. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 17:59:09 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 17:59:07 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 16:13:27 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02907 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:13:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26161 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:13:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 7840 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:13:20 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27701 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 15:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27518 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 15:12:21 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27515 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:12:20 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:12:20 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133KGi-000HjX-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: <01cf01bfd86e$7c057d80$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] parasitic cybersquallers Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:12:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye said some (mostly) nice things about me well thank you for that. as you say there are far worse crimes around and i still think that greg of SHAC and i holding huntingdon life sciences names and pointing them at the SHAC site can be morally justified. if i did not cold call bollinger about bol.ly or ronseal how would they know i had them. i think there is nothing wrong with a fairly low key approach to give them first refusal before they go on the market. i made it clear i was open to offers and did not just demand a million pounds and a years supply of wood varnish. ian old joke: register dot cotton dot bbc dot com +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 17:59:09 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 17:59:07 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 16:15:48 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03259 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:15:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26306 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:16:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 8176 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:15:45 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 28085 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 15:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 27901 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 15:14:45 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27898 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:14:44 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:14:44 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133KJ2-000Hlc-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: <01d901bfd86e$d1a95180$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: MY domain names and ronseal Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:15:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i sent this to ronseal and their lawyers: ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ian gomeche > To: ; > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:51 PM > Subject: MY domain names and ronseal > > > > sirs > > > > yes thats right MY domain names as legitimately purchased by myself from > > INTERNIC and NOMINET. > > > > your trademark includes the word ronseal. my names make no mention of > > ronseal. i do not believe that a court will decide that i have created 'an > > instrument of fraud' , am 'passing myself off as ronseal' and all the > other > > things you have accused my of. > > > > i am so angry by your totally unnessarily heavy-handed approach that i > have > > decided to set up web sites using the names > > which i will notify the media about. these sites will act as forums for > > anyone who has gripes with ronseal starting with me of course (bit like > > www.aolsucks.com) > > > > without prejudice > > > > ian gomeche > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 17:59:11 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 17:59:08 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 16:35:41 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06722 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:35:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27296 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:36:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 9088 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:35:39 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:35:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28700 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 15:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 28405 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 15:32:34 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 28400 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 15:32:33 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 15:32:33 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133KaG-000I5L-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:32:32 +0100 Message-ID: <022901bfd871$4dcc4540$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: LibertySurf Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:32:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk someone, i forget who was asking about what was going on at liberty surf. i am currently in discussions with their press office regarding a free press trial and got this from them which may be of interest. ian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 2:10 PM Subject: LibertySurf Dear Ian Please find below the LibertySurf statement as discussed. I will get back to you about going online (preferably without a disk) as soon as possible. Kind regards Francesca Lewis Direct line: 020 7539 2652 **************************************************************************** ********************************************************************** LibertySurf Statement Since LibertySurf was launched three weeks ago, we have had exceptionally high levels of demand to sign up to the service and there are currently some 45,000 customers on-line with LibertySurf. However, our 24/7 FREE customer technical support helpline received a significantly higher level of calls than we originally anticipated. This has stretched the technical helpline considerably and created a back-log of calls for customers who need help in getting online. "Clearly the fact that our helpline is free and not charged at a premium rate has prompted many more people than normal to use the technical support service. We therefore underestimated the level of calls to our free helpline. We apologise unreservedly for the inconvenience and frustration this has caused to some of our customers." Said Paul Myers of LibertySurf. To alleviate these problems and to ensure that the needs of existing LibertySurf customers are satisfied, we have taken the following actions : á LibertySurf has now increased the number of staff on its FREE technical support line to help customers get online and deal with their questions á LibertySurf has decided to temporarily withhold the product from its stockists, Comet and MVC, as a result of the high demand and as soon as the helpline capacity has increased to a satisfactory level the LibertySurf CD will be back on sale in Comet and MVC stores á Existing customers will receive an extra month to their subscription - so 13 months instead of 12 á If there are any customers who do not wish to continue with our service we will provide them with a full refund "Again our apologies to all those we have inconvenienced. This huge demand for our product demonstrates the popularity of our offer and we are confident that the majority of our customers are satisfied and are getting an effective and value for money service." ENDS For further information please contact Sara Tidy at Biss Lancaster 020 7539 2691 or 0207 497 3001 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 17:59:12 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 17:59:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 17:29:57 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16642 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:29:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA30388 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:30:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 10558 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 16:29:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 16:29:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 766 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 16:29:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 571 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 16:28:54 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 568 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 16:28:53 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 16:28:53 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133LSn-000Iw1-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: <025401bfd879$1491b8c0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] domain registrations Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:28:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk steve kennedy wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 03:17:32PM +0100, ian gomeche wrote: > > > 7. then decide what to do about web site forwarding , email forwarding eic > > and whether you are happy to leave your name parked on the brokers site > > 8. build your site (or not if you just plan to sell the name) > > Which is paramount to cybersquatting this explanation is about registering any domain e.g mydomain or emi.ly so how the f*** is this cybersquatting? .. > > > 11. note if ordering directly from a countries own registrar you may be > > asked for the primary and secondary server DNS > > addresses where the name is to be hosted. this is not necessary if buying > > through a broker as they will automatically > > submit their own DNS addresses as they will be initially hosting your name > > only if they actually run a "parking" service or point it to one of > their webservers. > > Of course this is all likely to change when the US cybersquatting > law is passed ... > > looks like you'll have a few legal bills ... give it a rest. the brokers i mention DO have free parking and as i said earlier who is going to do me for cybersquatting emi.ly? for f's sake? > > Steve ian who is now getting very irritated with all this sniping > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 18:24:53 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 18:24:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 18:05:00 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23005 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:04:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA32565 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:05:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 11133 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 17:04:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 17:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1343 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 17:04:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 1158 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 17:04:00 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 1153 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 17:03:59 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 17:03:59 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133M0k-000JaY-00; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:03:58 +0100 Message-ID: <02a601bfd87d$f2390d00$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "Steve Kennedy" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <014201bfd866$c7ac87e0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> <20000617171827.A29998@[redacted].gbnet.net> Subject: Re: [mt] mark thomas Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:03:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk steve your concern for the size of my legal bills is very touching. are you sure you are running the right list? i mean this is called a 'mark thomas' list so presumably it has a certain tongue-in-cheek anarchic flavour. i really think you would be more in your element running the 'uptight official governmnent party line killjoys , mustn't do anything naughty, stuffed shirts and big brother' mailing list. it is at this point that i need to ask you precisely what is your relationship with mark thomas and vera regarding this list .? i mean there is no mention of your list on the official channel 4 mark thomas web site as far as i could see. if there is no relationship then how you run your list is entirely up to you, as it is essetially just a private club albeit one which is using mark thomas's name. if there is a relationship then you must bear in mind that you are acting in mark thomas's good name . either way, i think that mark thomas would be interested in what is going here and how you treat newbies .i will talk to the guys at channel 4 and vera on monday. ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Kennedy To: mark thomas Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [mt] domain registrations > On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 03:17:32PM +0100, ian gomeche wrote: > > > 7. then decide what to do about web site forwarding , email forwarding eic > > and whether you are happy to leave your name parked on the brokers site > > 8. build your site (or not if you just plan to sell the name) > > Which is paramount to cybersquatting ... > > > 11. note if ordering directly from a countries own registrar you may be > > asked for the primary and secondary server DNS > > addresses where the name is to be hosted. this is not necessary if buying > > through a broker as they will automatically > > submit their own DNS addresses as they will be initially hosting your name > > only if they actually run a "parking" service or point it to one of > their webservers. > > Of course this is all likely to change when the US cybersquatting > law is passed ... > > looks like you'll have a few legal bills ... > > Steve > > -- > NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 > Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU > mobile 07775 755503 Epage steve-pager@[redacted].net [body only] > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 19:31:05 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 19:31:21 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 19:17:45 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04828 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:17:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04672 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:18:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 13412 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 18:17:33 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 18:17:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3951 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 18:17:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3770 invoked by uid 100); 17 Jun 2000 18:16:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2517 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 17:22:15 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 2514 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 17:22:13 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 17:22:13 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133MIO-000Jta-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:22:13 +0100 Message-ID: <02d601bfd880$795b3fe0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] re: mark thomas Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:21:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk steve kennedy wrote: 'This is a public mailing list, feel free to unsubscribe.' ----------------------------------- why thank you . that's very kind of you. i'll bear that in mind. feel free to excercise your listmeisters undemocratic right to unsubscribe me (bearing in mind what i said earlier about you going out under mark thomas's name) ian P S> a troll i am not. i thought my contributions have been pretty constructive and of intersey +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 19:06:50 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 19:07:01 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 18:33:55 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27822 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:33:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01862 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:34:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 12365 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 17:33:53 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 17:33:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 2791 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 17:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2608 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 17:32:53 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 2605 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 17:32:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 17:32:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133MQy-000KA0-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: <02e501bfd881$b3176960$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] censorship Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:30:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Steve kennedy wrote: 'p.s. if I wanted to be vindictive (after you phoned me up, then promptly hung up), I'd just bounce all mail from you inbound to this server ... and I sprobably shouldn't have done the same to you after you phoned me up to moan again' ------------------- well i hung up as i didn't have a lot to say. i generally tend to hang up when i have finished a call (need to save some money to pay all my legal bills) . so let me see . someone phones you to complain to you personally about some things you had written and you therefore consider denying everyone else on your list my peals of wisdom? rather droconian and not very mark thomas-like really is it ? mmmmmmm ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 20:13:47 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 20:13:43 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 19:59:09 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10835 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:59:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06936 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:59:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 14820 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 18:59:08 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 18:59:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6008 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 18:58:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 18:58:10 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5822 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 18:58:10 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 18:58:10 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133NnF-000Lq2-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:58:09 +0100 Message-ID: <03fd01bfd88d$aee9a7c0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] hypocracy Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:56:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk steve kennedy wrote: 'I work for an ISP full-time, this is my hobby. I dont like cybersquatting. I'll post what I want.' fair enough. i suppose in view of your intense hatred of cybersquatting, that you have complained verhemently to mark thomas about his blatent squatting on www.memwithhill.whatever or is it o.k.for him to do it and not me ? ian anyone else getting bored with all this nonsense? +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 20:13:47 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 20:13:45 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 20:10:00 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12273 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:09:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA07492 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:10:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 15350 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 19:09:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 19:09:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6765 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 19:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6586 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 19:08:57 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 6583 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 19:08:57 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 19:08:57 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.168] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133Nxg-000M1W-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:08:56 +0100 Message-ID: <040701bfd88f$28620a60$a85408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Re: hypocracy Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:06:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk no wonder i couln't find it ,. its www.meNwithhill.com (silly boy) as of you all know yup i would say that was a pretty blatent piece of cybersquatting by someone called MTCP (now who can that be?) ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sat Jun 17 22:13:12 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Jun 17 22:13:27 2000) X-From_: daemon Sat Jun 17 21:52:18 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27662 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:52:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA12938 for <[redacted]>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:52:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 17364 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 20:52:09 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 20:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9159 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 20:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 8976 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 20:51:11 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 8973 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 20:51:11 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 20:51:11 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.39] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133PYc-000NVA-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: <003201bfd89c$ed6e7480$275908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] domains Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:43:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk well so england won then (not that i get excited about footy much) . i just tried to see if i could get any 'theythinkitsallover' domains but the last 2 (.org and .org.uk) went just a couple of weeks ago. i did actually try to buy them then but because i buy so many, my credit card keeps bouncing due to random security checks kicking in after so many transactions in a day . my card company say there is nothing they can do about this. i keep trying to explain to them that the uk2.net computer is hardly likely to go off and phone for authorisation as requested. they admit that cybertrading is probably going to force them to rethink a lot of their security procedures which were designed with humans and not machines in mind oh well anyone fancy buying www.vladtheimpaler.co.uk ? or do you think mr vlad will come and er 'impale' me for squatting his domain ian relevant quote from film 'jumpin' jack flash' : 'computers are not friendly miss doolittle' 'i'm not a computer' +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 04:38:45 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 04:39:35 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 00:56:50 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02407 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:56:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA23253 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:57:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 22116 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 23:56:48 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 23:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14098 invoked by uid 610); 17 Jun 2000 23:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13919 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2000 23:55:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 13916 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 23:55:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 23:55:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.39] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133SRG-0000Fc-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:55:47 +0100 Message-ID: <011701bfd8b5$bebb7660$275908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] hypocracy (sic) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:42:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk harry wrote: > > First you come on, whining about Ronseal behaving exactly as I'd > expect a gormless company to behave under the circumstances. > > Some people sympathise, some don't. As you'd expect. > > You assume the ones that don't sympathise are attacking you. > > When the bloke who provides the services that underpin the List gives > his opinion, you publicly suggest he's unfit for the job and imply > you're going to try and get him into trouble with Mark Thomas and > Channel 4 / Vera. > > Owning the HLS domain names is great, and I'm glad someone's doing > it. I'm sorry it's you though, if this is how you normally behave. > Disgraceful. > well you are entitled to your view. personally i think it is pretty disgraceful to continually rip into a newbie and not cut him a little slack. that's what i was taking issue about. how much work that person does in maintaining the list is not really relevant is it? . i certainly don't expect everybody to agree with me or symphasize with my position but continual sniping by the same person is just tedious. i never suggested steve was unfit to be listmeister - i expect he is highly capable. i was just questioning the intollerance of someone running a list in mark thomas's name. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 04:38:47 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 04:39:38 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 02:20:24 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16587 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:20:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA27235 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:20:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 25527 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 01:20:23 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 01:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18162 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 01:20:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17991 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 01:19:24 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 17988 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 01:19:24 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 01:19:24 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.157] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133TkB-0001Ko-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:19:23 +0100 Message-ID: <01cf01bfd8c0$dd2e9040$275908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] who she? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:02:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk geoff wrote: (i'm) rushing off to buy "julieanndavies.co.uk and do something naughty with it who the f is julie ann davies? ian the ignorant +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 04:38:50 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 04:39:41 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 02:51:53 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23599 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:51:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA28733 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:52:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 27303 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 01:51:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 01:51:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20076 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 01:51:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 19897 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 01:50:51 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 19894 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 01:50:50 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 01:50:50 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.157] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133UEb-0001fM-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:50:50 +0100 Message-ID: <01fb01bfd8c4$f59f2320$275908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] who she? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:31:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ian the tactless wrote: 'who the f is julie ann davies?' geoff wrote: 'otherwise known as official_secrets_act, just winding her up a bit' er i see. sorry julie-ann aka squirrell nutkin. i assumed geoff had a crush on a member of all-saints or something. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 14:54:23 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 14:54:35 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 13:58:48 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14753 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:58:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA30352 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:59:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 26211 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 12:58:47 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 12:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18908 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 12:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18726 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 12:57:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 18721 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 12:57:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 12:57:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133ee1-000A6o-00; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: <004601bfd924$dd2b0f60$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "fisheye" Cc: "Steve Kennedy" , "mark thomas" References: <02d601bfd880$795b3fe0$a85408c3@oemcomputer> <394CAAE3.43060C81@[redacted].co.uk> Subject: Re: [mt] re: sweary mary and mark thomas Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:58:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye expostulated thusly: 'Oh please, c'mon, cut all this crap about mark's name, stick up for yourself for fuck's sake, now I am just plain annoyed, it's a fuckin cowardly thing to do, to keep using someone else's name. Leave Mark out of it, it's fuck all to do with him. Yes your posts have been fine, up until now, you are just going too far, it's like a scratched record, get back to the constructive and interesting stuff will you? thats enough fucking swearing thank you. if you recall steve said he had considerered bouncing my mail. that is cowardly effectively sensoring someone cos they stand up against you. # if you can't take it you should not dish it out (i am speaking generally here, not about you personally) i may or may not phone geoff atkinson and nich at channel 4 but i will probably wait and see how things go and decide whether to mention anything next time we talk. steve seems to have laid off me (for the time being at least) i don't give a stuff what you think about me suggesting i might talk to them about this. why should steve bounce my mail ?. what right has he got. i wasn't abusing anyone (certainly not up to your f count) and i was not promoting child prostitution or whatever. i will say this again . if this is 'the steve kennedy mailing list' then he can bounce/eject anybody he likes for whatever reason he likes. if this is a 'mark thomas' list then he should be acting in a way mark would approve of , which , of course, is not to threaten to censor people and to accept that not everone shares his views. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 14:54:24 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 14:54:36 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 14:12:17 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16814 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:12:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA31063 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:12:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 26629 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:11:59 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 19344 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 13:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19162 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 13:11:04 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 19159 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:11:03 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:11:03 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133eqs-000AKl-00; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:11:02 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01bfd926$b820b880$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "Bonobo" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <02da01bfd918$987f8640$b9977ed4@q6p4b0> Subject: Re: [mt] ONCE , twice , three times a lady Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:11:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk bonobo wrote: > > The radio and television spot promotes a weekly lottery run by the > National > > Organization of Blind Spaniards, known by its acronym ONCE. > > Hang on, are you sure that arrangement of letters spells ONCE? > it is definitely ONCE . i know cos they had a top cycling team which rode the tour de france (along with cafe de columbia. which sounded like a coke dealers convention). quite how blind buggers managed to whizz down the twisty mountain hair-pins at 50 m.p.h?. god only knows. come to that how did the coked up cafe de columbia team stay on the road?. i wonder if the linda mccartney team goes along all singing 'mull of kintyre' in unison? what a ghastly thought BTW anone want to buy www.eddiemerckx.co.uk or www.sgtpepper.org.uk ? steve? thought not! +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 14:54:25 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 14:54:37 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 14:36:45 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20523 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:36:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA32374 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:37:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 27145 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:36:44 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:36:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19834 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 13:36:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19657 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 13:35:45 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 19654 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:35:44 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:35:44 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133fEl-000Ah8-00; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:35:44 +0100 Message-ID: <00ae01bfd92a$2ad1a760$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Cc: "Bonobo" Subject: Fw: [mt] trolls Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:36:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > bonobo accused me thusly: > > > 'Could we have another troll of our very own? Come in the form of our new > lovable cybersquatter Ian? He might even be angel69 with another new name, > but he hasn't started spouting complete toss yet, just insulting list > regulars and being an arrogant 'I know people in high places' smart arse. > So i'd like to be the first to formally welcome Ian, as our new troll. > Hello Troll! ' > > wrong. . i already have said i am not a troll. i have better things to do > with my time. remember steve and a few started the agro by attacking me > first. or have you conviently forgotten that. i have given several list > members much good advice both on and off list. hardly the actions of a > troll. > > why when i defend myself (i seem to recall fisheye saying 'stand up for > yourself' ) am i suddenly a troll? > > i am an arrogant smartarse, who like most journalists has a large an > interesting contacts book. as i 25 years IT experience > i happen to know a few computery things which i am happy to share with > people , some of whom -at least -seem quite grateful. > > ian > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 14:54:26 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 14:54:38 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 14:50:16 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22592 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:50:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00673 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:50:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 29793 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:50:14 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 22562 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 13:49:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22390 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 13:49:15 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 22387 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:49:15 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:49:15 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133fRq-000AvI-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:49:14 +0100 Message-ID: <00dc01bfd92c$0dddeea0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] pluck a duck !( no doub't very old) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:49:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk plucker wrote: 'A big welcome to Ian' why thank you. i just confused the hell out of matt kelly on the mirror as i sent him a posting by mistake when he replied. i thought 'mmmm matt is on the list, suprise surprise' . i replied to his reply confusing him more no doubt i then realised what had happened when i looked in my mail out box the outlook express autocomplete had generated his address rather than mark thomas as they both begin with MA and i failed to notice. first time i have done that. ever happened to anyone else? odd really ,as mark comes before matt in the alphabet so i would have expected it to have created the M.T .address first. it must do them in the order you add them to your address book ian the embarrassed +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 16:11:32 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 16:11:59 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 16:10:59 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04708 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:10:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA05185 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:11:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 7048 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 279 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 15:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29814 invoked by uid 102); 18 Jun 2000 15:08:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22780 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 13:51:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22777 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:51:46 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:51:46 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133fUH-000AxZ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:51:45 +0100 Message-ID: <00e801bfd92c$67e65540$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] apologies Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:52:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk just got this from matt after i explained what had happened. phew he's still speaking to me i suppose now that he knows about the list he might possibly subscribe himself so all be on your best behavour ! ian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ian gomeche Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [mt] apologies > > lol! > > > > > > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The information in this e-mail is confidential and should > only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended > to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of > its contents. 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Sun Jun 18 15:29:55 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 15:30:16 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 14:56:21 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23537 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:56:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01037 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:56:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 613 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:56:16 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 13:55:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23156 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 13:54:36 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 23153 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 13:54:35 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 13:54:35 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133fX0-000AzV-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:54:34 +0100 Message-ID: <00f601bfd92c$cc801e00$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] apologies Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:55:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk you might as well see this ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [mt] apologies > > matt > > > you can probably work out what happened here. when i got your message. i > thought 'blow me matt is subscribed to the mark thomas mailing list' which i > have just joined. not a total surprise as danny o'brien of NTK is on it and > we have exchanged some private stuff. when i later looked at my out tray i > realised that i had sent a post to you instead of the mark-thomas list as > the outlook express autocomplete had generated your address instead of the > mark thomas one (both starting with MA) > > sorry about that > > must get some sleep (and keep taking the tablets) > > ian > > BTW were you aware that america.com is up for sale at $25 million dollars? > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 16:11:27 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 16:11:54 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 15:36:10 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29428 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:36:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA03186 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:36:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 3495 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 14:36:07 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 14:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26514 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 14:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26342 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 14:35:08 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 26339 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 14:35:07 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 14:35:07 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133gAF-000Bbl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:35:07 +0100 Message-ID: <017001bfd932$75eb2480$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] trolls Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:35:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk bonobo ecrit: 'Just saying "I'm no troll, guvna" doesn't mean you aren't me laddy.' er who are you calling 'laddy' (sic) , laddie? o.k. fuck it you win, i am a troll . happy now? i'm bored of this . i'm off down the pub m.kelly@[redacted].co.uk is matt kelly who writes the daily mirror internet column 'kelly's eye' with shiraz. o.k.? i give him stories. i sent him a posting purely by mistake as the the outlook express autocomplete.... (hang on a moment, i've explained this already haven't' i? ) ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 16:11:29 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 16:11:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 15:58:54 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02972 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:58:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04432 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:59:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 4685 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 14:58:52 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 14:58:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27736 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 14:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27557 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 14:57:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27554 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 14:57:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 14:57:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133gWA-000Bve-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:57:47 +0100 Message-ID: <01c601bfd935$9f9995c0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bloody cybersquatters Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:58:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk the battle between some guy who own's www.juliaroberts.com and julia roberts is getting quite heavy right now. check out a blow by blow account of it all on the site .very bitch and amusing . my sympathies tend to lie with julia roberts here which may surprise you, as i reckon the guy to be a nasty piece of work [ALL cybersqatters are nasty pieces of work - herr listmeister] ian PS got my comeuppance when i bought www.eddiemerckx.co.uk -steve will be pleased to know - as it is of course spelt www.eddYmerckx.co.uk as any good belgian would know. sad really cos i checked the spelling of merckx with the tour de france site www.letour.fr but didn't think about the eddie bit. i have eddie stobart on the brain as i just bought my nephew an eddie corgi toy, am signing him up for the eddie spotters club and am trying to organise an interview with the man himself. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 16:11:29 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 16:11:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 16:01:07 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03247 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:01:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04572 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:01:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 5012 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 15:01:05 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 15:01:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28126 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 15:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 27953 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 15:00:04 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27950 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 15:00:04 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 15:00:04 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133gYN-000By1-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:00:03 +0100 Message-ID: <01d001bfd935$f0b8cc00$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] sweary mary Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:00:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye said: 'I am surprised at your taking offence at my fucking swearing,' er i was meant to be a joke. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 16:11:31 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 16:11:59 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 16:10:27 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04649 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:10:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA05129 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:10:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 6763 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 15:10:25 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 15:10:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29889 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 15:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29618 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 15:08:05 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 29590 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 15:08:00 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 15:08:00 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133gg3-000C86-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:08:00 +0100 Message-ID: <01fe01bfd937$0c552ac0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] warm welcome Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:08:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye welcomed the newbie thusly: 'P.S. Fuck off.' er i might.but not just cos some kid on a skateboard tells me to. bet you wear your baseball hat back to front too ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 17:34:45 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 17:35:30 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 17:11:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14120 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:11:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08843 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:12:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 11238 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:11:49 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:11:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4875 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 16:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 4691 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 16:10:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4688 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:10:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:10:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133hep-000DsH-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:10:47 +0100 Message-ID: <026701bfd93f$c8bd9d20$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] age before beauty Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:10:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk squirell nutkin wrote: D) When you meet him (fisheye) you will see what I mean why would i want to? E) By the way.. do Ronseal test their products on animals? Bet they do, it has to be safe for pets.. doesn't it? F) If they do would that not make their money tainted? well yes .i suppose you could say that about anything. BTW companies who for marketing reasons proudly claim 'our products are not tested on animals ' are conning the punters as it does not mean that the constituent chemicals or whatever have not been. in most cases they will have been i think this is appalling. G) I'm getting miffed now you don't say. odd that a guy can tell me to 'fuck off' and that's o.k. but when i make some sarky remarks about his age you get miffed. wonder what the average age on this list is? any idea steve? ian the crinckly +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 17:42:27 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 17:43:15 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 17:42:57 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18950 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:42:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10593 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:43:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 12442 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:42:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6172 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 16:42:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5985 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 16:41:54 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5982 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:41:54 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:41:54 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133i8q-000FK5-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:41:49 +0100 Message-ID: <02c801bfd944$171949c0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] boring Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:41:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk geoff wrote: 'A lot of people here have known each other and have been friends for quite some time now. If you attack, they'll react - human nature. So leave it out and change the subject to something more constructive' well i can't help your cliquey nature. aren't you forgetting who started attacking who first? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:38 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:52:47 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 17:58:08 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21208 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:58:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11446 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:58:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 15439 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:58:04 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8940 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 16:57:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8621 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 16:56:16 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 8613 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 16:56:15 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 16:56:15 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133iMo-000Fle-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:56:14 +0100 Message-ID: <02e901bfd946$17c83c80$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] yawn yawn Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:56:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk squirell nutkin went on and on and on (which i didn't bother to read) waste of ink. still must have made you fell better. glad to have been of service ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:43 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:52:52 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 18:26:54 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25907 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:26:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA13250 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:27:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 16982 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:26:52 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10963 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 17:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 10785 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 17:25:52 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 10782 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:25:51 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:25:51 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133ipS-000GGz-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:25:50 +0100 Message-ID: <034001bfd94a$361c60e0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] spanish inquisition (no one expects the) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:25:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye wrote: 'Newbie??? I could well be mistaken, but i think you have been around long enough to know how we are on this list. I am sure i am beginning to recall emails from you in the past, exactly how long I wonder? When did you sub?' two or three weeks ago. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:45 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:52:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 18:45:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29090 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:45:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14426 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:46:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 18803 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:45:50 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12936 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 17:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12754 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 17:44:49 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12751 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:44:49 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:44:49 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133j7o-000Gmw-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:44:48 +0100 Message-ID: <036f01bfd94c$d7354e40$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] hypocracy Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:44:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk now who was going on about steve speaking out out about things which are illegal (i.e. cybersquatting) ? oh er ian ----- Original Message ----- From: spyder To: a mark thomas thing Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [mt] poison > > it is a question of availability but its been cool these past few weeks, the > skunk is coming more regular, (which i do put to one side for purely > personal use =0) ) and as i don`t touch the baccy now a bag lasts for ages > in a pipe. > > my guerrilla garden is looking quite promising this year, mainly thai weed, > but a few skunk types in as well, just in case. > > i have a little of the resin for days like today, when i`ve got to do a > twelve hour shift all on my jack jones, the skunk would wipe me out in a > work environment. > > xxspyder > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:46 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:52:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 18:58:03 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01271 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:58:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15214 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:58:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 19225 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:58:01 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:58:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13355 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 17:57:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13169 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 17:57:03 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 13166 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 17:57:03 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 17:57:03 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133jJe-000H17-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:57:02 +0100 Message-ID: <03e901bfd94e$8a972160$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: Re:ONCE Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:56:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > geoff wrote: > > > Does it really matter if you're blind > > > > It probably makes more sense in Spanish than English > > according to the tour commentators it is pronounced ON SAY as i'm sure any > spanish speakers know already > > ian > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:50 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:53:00 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 19:16:48 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04547 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:16:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA16498 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:17:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 21674 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:16:44 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:16:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15708 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 18:14:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15358 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 18:13:34 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 15303 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:13:22 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:13:22 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133jZQ-000HUx-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:13:21 +0100 Message-ID: <044301bfd950$ce8384c0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] a hypocrite writes: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:12:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk at 18 June 2000 18:56 PK wrote: This is getting pretty repetitive and monotonous now - in case nobody else had noticed ;) - so why don't we end this amicably? at 18 June 2000 18:42 PK wrote (came in later) : Um, why? Cos you can write 'danny o'brien' and 'private stuff' on the same line. Well I hope it wasn't too personal or private, I'd hate to exchange such things with someone who then can't be bothered to capitalise my name. Danny - is this a private 'stuff' exchanging thing or can we all join in? I've got some 'private stuff' I've been trying to unload for bloody ages ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:53 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:53:03 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 19:18:53 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04954 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:18:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA16608 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:19:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 22409 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:18:46 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:18:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16914 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 18:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16732 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 18:17:45 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 16729 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133jde-000Hjn-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:17:43 +0100 Message-ID: <045501bfd951$695dda40$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] quoi? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:17:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye wrote: JA is right, if you wanna carry onm with this onlist i have to puyt up a filter, which i don't wanna do, you obviously have something to contribute as I am sure \I have corresponded with you in the past, or at least seen mails on list. Anything further to say to anyone qabout the matter then offlist is prolly good idea. this is my last onlist word on it(i hope) anyone any idea what this means in english? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Sun Jun 18 19:52:54 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Jun 18 19:53:04 2000) X-From_: daemon Sun Jun 18 19:27:41 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06577 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:27:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17177 for <[redacted]>; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:28:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 22930 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:27:39 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:27:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17477 invoked by uid 610); 18 Jun 2000 18:26:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17207 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2000 18:25:47 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 17204 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 18:25:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 18:25:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.38] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133jlR-000I5O-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:25:46 +0100 Message-ID: <049101bfd952$875e19a0$265608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] very boring Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:25:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye wrote: 'Steve didn't attck you, he just doesn't agree with your views'. so when i am giving a general answer about how to go about setting up a web site and steve launches in screaming 'cybersquatter' that is not an attack? well i took it as one and it is my perception that counts i think i am entitled to defend myself. obviously not it seems ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Mon Jun 19 16:16:17 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Mon Jun 19 16:17:30 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 16:12:00 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00832 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:11:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA08247 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:12:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 23697 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:11:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:11:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23968 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 15:11:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23792 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 15:10:53 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 23789 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:10:53 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:10:53 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.57] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1343C2-000J4a-00; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:10:30 +0100 Message-ID: <003201bfda00$b7c41780$395608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] sad isn't it? no not really Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:11:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk dear ms sqirrell of course you aren't doing a story on me as you don't actually write for anyone (apart from trot's weekly). all i told geoff is how you had flaunted 5 email's at me saying how you were cyberstalking me all round the net. in fact i can't find any evidence of anything you have written anywhere. where did you study journalism them? all kingston poly (sorry i mean univ) knows is that you claim to have done 'some freelancing sometime' i should post all the stuff you sent me last night trying to spook me (800 search engines indeed) you knew exactly what you were doing . not nice to get 5 sinister e-mails from you at about 10.00 p.m. (nasty piece of work i thought, i'll check her out) i then discovered how (im)famous you are and what a good story i have here. phoned a few nationals this morning (NO NOT THE MIRROR) and it's looking good so far . i am now far from sad - very happy in fact ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:34:30 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:34:29 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 16:29:01 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01406 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:28:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10598 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:29:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 26764 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:28:54 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:28:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27294 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 15:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27116 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 15:27:55 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27113 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:27:55 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:27:55 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.57] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1343Ss-000JfL-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: <004001bfda03$257efea0$395608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] she lies! Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:29:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk her ladyship wrote: Just had quite an interesting conversation with SHAC though! :-) Ian is obviously a very sad man, and there I'll leave it lie JA well i just phoned SHAC to check. they said 'there are 4 of us here and she hasn't phoned' as they are happily sending ME a cheque for a substantial sum of money as soon as they can get it to me (see their next press release) i would say that our relationship is still good. squirrel has no idea how much time SHAC and i spend working together. i told them that she was just a little trot troublemaker and they took that on board ig ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:34:39 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:34:38 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 16:39:39 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18841 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:39:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA11812 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:39:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 15 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:39:24 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:39:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 499 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 15:38:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 29916 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 15:36:48 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 29359 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:34:53 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:34:53 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1343Za-000Jun-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bfda04$1c501d40$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] squirell and SHAC Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:35:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk in fact SHAC say they have never heard of media star julie-ann davies and they 'won't take a blind bit of notice if she does phone them' ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:34:55 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:34:55 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 16:59:43 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28436 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:59:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14123 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:00:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 5240 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:59:38 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:59:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 5698 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 15:55:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5373 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 15:54:36 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5310 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 15:54:21 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 15:54:21 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1343sO-000KXI-00; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:54:17 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01bfda06$d1c571a0$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "Bawden Benjamin" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <35009437B330D4118A1C00508B60B58A0CE2DE@SEUBPEBAS90> Subject: Re: [mt] squirell and SHAC Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:55:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk it takes 2 to tango. why did you not post this to the sqirrel as well as me.? that what makes me sick about some people on this list. a person insinuates my relationship with SHAC is crap. when i point out they are lying through their teeth i am accused of egotistically whatever when i am just defending my corner. i really think mark thomas would be most ashamed of the way some of you behave. like the fact she sent me 5 really bitch spooky emails on trot last night. that is what drove me to check her out and realise i had a great story. still never mind it's all fodder for 'idiots in cyberspace' ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Bawden Benjamin To: 'ian gomeche' ; mark thomas Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:43 PM Subject: RE: [mt] squirell and SHAC > Hi > > Look, I'm a tolerant kind of person, but what do you hope to achieve with > all this slagging off? > > If you've got something interesting, witty, ironic, funny, or constructive > to say, or if you just want to witter on about nothing in particular, then > go ahead. But please stop this meaningless bullshit. > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:35:05 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:35:05 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 17:18:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05989 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:18:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16106 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:18:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 9084 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 16:18:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10855 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 16:17:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10623 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 16:16:35 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 10620 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 16:16:34 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 16:16:34 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1344Dy-000LDe-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: <004701bfda09$ebbc24c0$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] idiots? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk .'..and I can't wait for the Guardian's followup..."Idiot Journalists in Cyberspace..." Scott er which journalist did you have in mind? me or the nut-hoarding one. incredible really. she lies blatently about phoning SHAC about me and that doesn't mean anything to any of you. what else has she lied about? some of you really must stop thinking that the sun shines out of her whatsit just cos she is pally with shayler. good story about him in 'mail on sunday 'yesterday anyone see it? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:35:16 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:35:16 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 17:40:04 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17504 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:40:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18847 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:40:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 14951 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 16:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15682 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 16:34:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15115 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 16:32:49 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14424 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 16:29:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 16:29:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1344Qp-000LeX-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: <005f01bfda0b$c61c44a0$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] netiquette - never heard of it? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:31:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk just realised that the squirrel posted a load of my private posts to your list. so much for netiquette. isn't that a serious sending off offence steve?. no wait a minute , it can't be cos you did it too i have not posted the 5 bitchy ones from her last night (and no she made no mention of a sixty second mamma search - lying again) . she made it very clear she was going to hunt down every reference to me on the net. including and i quote 'using her software which searched 800 search engines'. hardly just sixty second's worth. but who cares . you will all still worship her and think i'm the devil incarnate. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:35:26 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:35:24 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 18:02:13 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05382 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:02:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20954 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:02:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 18339 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 17:02:03 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 17:02:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20981 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 17:01:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 20618 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 17:00:23 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 20370 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 16:59:37 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 16:59:37 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1344tb-000MUO-00; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:59:35 +0100 Message-ID: <007001bfda0f$e5fb9ce0$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "fisheye" Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] lying bastard Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:00:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye you are a lying bastard but never mind. i worked that out long ago. your assumption that i am ripping SHAC off without knowing the facts is typical of your ignorance. SHAC asked me to sell them certain items as qiuickly as i could. i am selling them to SHAC at cost and effectively donatating my time , phone calls etc for free. I spent an hour today on my phone bill trying to persude geoff atkinson to do something on HLS in mark's next series. he was genuinely interested - as how often does a busy producer have an hour to spend discussing something which is only a possibiliy. i guarantee you that most people would have felt very uneasy and probably spooked if they had received 5 emails like the ones i got from the female. that of course was precisely her idea. she has claimed to be an 'investigative' journalist on several doccumented occasions. again you lie. i don't believe you phoned SHAC and i don't think they would care what you had to say. i never claimed to write for them. why would i want to? they dont pay. i have written much ABOUT them and the campaign against huntingdon. i have given them loads of help and got them lots of media attention through my contacts. who the fuck do you think you are claiming otherwise you squirt . what do you possible know about my relationship with SHAC?. bugger all obviously ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:35:42 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:35:41 2000) X-From_: daemon Mon Jun 19 19:42:49 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19341 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:42:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA30688 for <[redacted]>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:43:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 7969 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 18:42:46 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 18:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 8360 invoked by uid 610); 19 Jun 2000 18:07:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6926 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 2000 18:03:11 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5143 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 17:55:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 17:55:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.186] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1345m2-000O20-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:55:50 +0100 Message-ID: <00a001bfda17$b387fd00$ba5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] amazing female Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:56:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i dont think i have ever 'met' anyone quite like the squirrel. i told you all that i had bought some HLS domains and that greg had bought some. SHAC are still denyiny that you ever spoke to them and for some reason i believe them. she blatently twists everthing around. she has no idea what truth is but it doesn't really matter anyway. as someone said to me today 'she sees everything as one big conspiracy theory' still at least no brazening it out on the serious breech of ettiquette thing. she just hopes that one will go away and no one noticed or cared i assure her there is media attention on her , of course there is, lots of it. i have a good story. someone will run it whether she excercises her right to reply or not. (it is not a law - it is journalistic ettiquette something she does not bother with) ig P.S.anyone want to see the unpleasant stuff she sent me last night? probably not +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:37:13 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:37:11 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 02:12:38 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01452 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:12:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA30785 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:12:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 19919 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:12:30 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 27438 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 01:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 27129 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 01:06:38 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 26916 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:05:56 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:05:56 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134CUC-00095t-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bfda53$e4a013a0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] thoughts Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:07:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk well today has been illuminating. i stopped posting several hours ago yet still torrents of juvenile flame has come in. a one sided flame war? surely not ? [ANYTHING'S possible on this list - ed] it is ironic i think ,that i spent a whole hour today discussing ideas for the next mark thomas series with geoff atkinson while meanwhile on a list which bears the man's name i have had nothing but vilification and troll accusations . i assure you all that when i joined this list being a troll was most certainly not on my agenda . still, several of you have shown repeatedly that you chose to see what you want to see and bugger the facts. i have posted a number of constructutve things (even if you don't agree with me) but you chose to conveniently ignore all that. even sue foulis phones me now and again to get the latest on the things i am working on. i was called a troll and an embarrassment by the squirrel which is ironic because when i asked geoff about her work i was expecting him to say something like 'she was one of our best researchers' instead he seemed very embarrassed and stressed that she ' just turned up and did things. she was never an employee' when i asked him if she would be going back he said very pointedly 'there is no question of that as she was never here in the first place' so who is the embarrassment with the people who really count as opposed to a bunch of juvenilles who are boring the pants of all the 180 odd lurkers with their torrents of repetitive unconstuctive flame then? i have suggested to SHAC that they follow up my conversation today with geoff by writing him a letter. they think it's a good idea and we are all hopefull that geof will run some stuff on HLS in the next series. geoff certainly said he would contact me again nearer the start of the next series. this is all good positive stuff yes? er no - cos ian is just a nasty little troll and bugger what is going on between him and vera. it is quite clear to me that anyone who thinks this list has anything much to do with mark thomas is deluding themselves as there is no way that mark would behave as many of you do . you just want a kiddies convention. i think i will suggest to mark's manager, whose name and number i was given today, that it might be worth setting up a proper mark thomas list and leave you lot to squabble amongst yourselves . you can bore each other to death while people who really want to get into the spirit of mark thomas can leave and join the new list. i might even offer to run it myself if i have time [you can't do that . youre a troll - ed] on the subject of matt kelly's email address , it is true many at mirror group use the mgn domain. i think most people on the mirror are now using mirror.co.uk . obviously they all have addresses for their day-to-day work which differ from the addresses given in the papers. for example ,when i did some stuff for charlotte on 'the people' she give me charlotte.seligman@[redacted].co.uk. to use in the paper she prints c.seligman@[redacted].co.uk. the reason is pretty obvious really if you think about it but no because i print a reply from matt on m.kelly@[redacted].co.uk it is somehow the work of a troll. many of you may not like me much (and that's putting it mildly) but that does not automatically make me a troll. i have never attacked any of you first but only replied to flame. seems several of you are happy to dish it out but you can't take it. i was warned by several people that a lot of you were just trying to bait me and wind me up. thats o.k. but don't expect me to just take it . why the hell should i? actually i probably should have ignored most of it as life really is too short for all this nonsense. i may unsubscribe for good as i see no constructive reason to stay on a list with so many childish timewasters. after all, if i have anything MARK THOMAS related to discuss, i can more profitably just pick up the phone and talk to geoff or sue or channel 4 as i did today. do i really need you lot? [like a hole in the head - ed] BTW these remarks are not directed at the silent majority of lurkers or those of you who have been civil with me. my story about the squirrel will have nothing to do with our personal battle as that is of no interest to anyone. it is about other matters which the papers i have spoken to are extremely interested in as she is big news right now. BTW spoke to bindmans and bernbergs today (unusual name for a lady - areth? - well i thought so anyway) 'idiots in cyberspace' is a different matter, as that was conceived by me and the then editor of mojo, paul, as a light hearted feature on the nonsense that goes on on mailing lists. paul was scarred off by some of 'the idiots in cyberspace' and decided he could live without the agro as he is a mild mannered man. that's o.k. because the national which now has asked for 1000 words (paul only wanted 700) will pay much more. O.K children back you all go to pointless flaming ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:37:15 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:37:13 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 02:32:01 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05111 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:32:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA32121 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:32:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 26519 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:31:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3842 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 01:28:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2792 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 01:24:37 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 2600 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:24:03 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:24:03 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Clg-0009GV-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bfda56$6a6af3e0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] prat of the week Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:25:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk sqeLchy2k or whatever only wanabee hackers with their baseball hats back to front use mixed caps and lower case. they clog the hacker lists with crap LiKe THis WHis Is FucKing HarD To reAd. the real dudes hate them and try to keep them out you get the prize for idiotic prat of the week. do you really think all 200 people on this list want to receive all your gallons of childish twaddle?. you only need to say 'gomeche is a f***ing troll' ONCE ,you moron, not a zillion times must be past your bed time surely.? what no school tomorrow? oh well ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 02:37:15 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 02:37:14 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 02:33:16 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05345 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:33:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA32176 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:33:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 26868 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:33:13 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:33:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 5297 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 01:31:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 4887 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 01:30:51 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4879 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:30:50 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:30:50 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134CsL-0009Jm-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:30:49 +0100 Message-ID: <002901bfda57$60a502a0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: [Fw: domain name hou.se] Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:32:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Griffiths To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [Fw: domain name hou.se] That's a cracker! "ian gomeche" wrote: > mark > > er yes! > > ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marcus Bodin > To: ian gomeche > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: domain name hou.se > > > Hello, > It will be possible for you to register the domain hou.se if you have a > company registered in Sweden under the name of Hou. If you do, please write > me your post adress and I will help you further. > sincerly, > /Marcus Bodin, Abraxas > > > >dear sirs > > > >i wish to register the domain name hou.se which i believe is still > >available. > > > >please send me details of the cost etc. if you could email me an > >application form in english that would be appreciated. i would rather pay > by > >credit card over a secure server. is that possible? > > > >regards > > > >ian gomeche > > > >ikg associates uk ltd > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Abraxas > Mediaproduktion, tidningar och bšcker. > Registrerar domŠnnamn under toppdomŠnen .se. Ombud fšr NIC-SE. > E-post: registrering@[redacted].a.se > http://www.abraxas.a.se > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Adress: RingvŠgen 163, 2 tr 116 31 Stockholm > Tel: 08-462 07 02 Fax: 090-12 70 33 Mobil: 070-60 90 448 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 04:49:15 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 04:49:37 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 02:40:25 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06518 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:40:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA32619 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:40:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:40:21 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:40:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 7285 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 01:38:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6744 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 01:36:16 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 6580 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:35:43 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:35:43 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Cx4-0009O0-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:35:42 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01bfda58$0edffa00$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mike bayliss" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <000701bfda53$e4a013a0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> <000d01bfda57$1f29b460$6a8243d4@mick> Subject: Re: [mt] thoughts Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:37:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk think my spelling and grammar are better than your's. don't email me again this wonderful example of prose is definitely a candidate for 'idiots in cyberspace' ever thought of getting an education.? you are right about one thing. i have spent far to long in the company of delinquents and am neglecting my work ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [mt] thoughts > ian > > why all this name dropping bollox, low self esteem maybe?. how does a man of > your, self purported intelligance and importance have so much free time? > please give us all break and just fuck off you diluded tosser and i dont > give a dam who you tell your little tales out of school to, if you passing > all this crap onto mark or anyone at vera could luck and make sure you spell > how names write > > regards > capt digby > ps now returning back to my lair EX NUJ CIRCA 77 > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 04:49:15 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 04:49:37 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 02:42:59 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07256 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:42:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA32767 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:43:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 29990 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:42:56 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:42:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 8568 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 01:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8402 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 01:41:57 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 8399 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 01:41:57 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 01:41:57 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134D35-0009Pl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01bfda58$ed1951e0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] thoughts Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:43:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk as you posted this to the list , i can post this reply there now. see i try to stick to good netiquette unlike some people around here ig ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Cc: mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [mt] thoughts > think my spelling and grammar are better than your's. don't email me again > > this wonderful example of prose is definitely a candidate for 'idiots in > cyberspace' > > ever thought of getting an education.? > > you are right about one thing. > > i have spent far to long in the company of delinquents and am neglecting my > work > > ig > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike bayliss > To: ian gomeche > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 2:30 AM > Subject: Re: [mt] thoughts > > > > ian > > > > why all this name dropping bollox, low self esteem maybe?. how does a man > of > > your, self purported intelligance and importance have so much free time? > > please give us all break and just fuck off you diluded tosser and i dont > > give a dam who you tell your little tales out of school to, if you passing > > all this crap onto mark or anyone at vera could luck and make sure you > spell > > how names write > > > > regards > > capt digby > > ps now returning back to my lair EX NUJ CIRCA 77 > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 04:49:18 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 04:49:40 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 03:40:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20750 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:40:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA04101 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:41:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 6660 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:40:48 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:40:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 15071 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 02:39:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 14666 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 02:38:41 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14607 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:38:28 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:38:28 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Dvn-0009us-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <006f01bfda60$d1678040$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] heavy legal stuff Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:39:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk right. i think you have all had your fun at my expense. the sheer excessive volume of libellous abusive postings from messers SQueLchY2k and co. have gone way beyond acceptable levels. certainly consideration should be shown towards the vast majority of list members with overflowing mailboxes by the vociferous 'in crowd' of flamers if this continues at this level i will raise this with mark's manager , geoff. and channel 4 i will apply for an injunction on this list and the list owner and effectively get this list shut down. i will get the story of this into the nationals. this is no bluff. the laws of libel (as i'm sure our barrack room lawyeress ms. secret squirrel will confirm) apply to emails as much as anything else (as microsoft and norwich union found out to their cost) without prejudice ian gomeche +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 13:54:40 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 13:54:55 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 13:24:35 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01576 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:24:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA18163 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:24:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 28624 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:24:29 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 10408 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:23:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10236 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:23:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 15290 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 02:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15282 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:40:29 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:40:29 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Dxi-0009vT-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:40:26 +0100 Message-ID: <008101bfda61$17e304e0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:41:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ian gomeche=20 To: mike bayliss=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:15 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard that woman posted to the list 'may you all rot in hell' she admitted she = had a serious drink problem. they had to bring in a 3 posts a day limit = as she was posting zillions of things which made no sense to anyone . = she has now quit the list so what is your point then? she caused trouble on the compuserve forums and my ISP wrote and told = her to stop wasting their time with spurious compaints against me. i informed my local police that she might be contacting them and they = said it was up to us two to sort ourselves out as postings to a mailing = which a person voluntarily choses to receive weree outside their = jurisdiction . my ISP and her ISP told her the same thing. additionally = when i asked her repeatedly to stop sending me private flame she refused = . her ISP nearly took HER account away. it's all there in the archives = so keep looking (waste of bloddy time if you ask me though) ig ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike bayliss=20 To: ian gomeche=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: = 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear = from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia = ------------------------------=20 Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I = either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and = the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I = need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or = sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy = everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the = same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 = From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm = very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil = surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has = made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental = cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia = - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 = From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to = remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually = said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's = divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start = to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well = affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. = Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 = <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind = me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. = Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I = don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the = US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not = police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to = resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone = whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly = if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the = injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can = vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts = he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just = how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone = outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or = civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be = letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't = stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from = you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop = now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you = are going to get. -=20 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 13:54:43 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 13:55:00 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 13:26:14 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02546 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:26:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA18309 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:26:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 29072 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:26:06 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:26:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10778 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:25:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10481 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:24:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15377 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 02:40:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 15370 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:40:40 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:40:40 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Dxu-0009va-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:40:39 +0100 Message-ID: <008b01bfda61$1f303880$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:42:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk id NAA02546 ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard thanks for reminding me to set the block on you. right i have told you the true story regarding sylvia morris . this can be easily verified. if you post anything about this to anyone which is libellous or which does not reflect the true story (little point then?) i will sue the pants off you and get an injuction on your site. do NOT test me on this without prejudice ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia ------------------------------ Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you are going to get. - +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 04:49:19 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 04:49:41 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 03:50:12 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22345 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:50:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA04647 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:50:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 7430 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:50:05 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16044 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 02:49:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15803 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 02:48:47 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 15766 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 02:48:39 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 02:48:39 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134E5a-0009zT-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:48:34 +0100 Message-ID: <009d01bfda62$39eac2c0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mike bayliss" Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] right i did warn you Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:49:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i am perilously close to staring legal proceedings against you (and your damn site while i'm at at) for posting stuff regarding myself and sylvia morris to this list out of context and thereby implying serious accusations against myself which in fact were spurious and groundless. without prejudice ian gomeche +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 14:14:37 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 14:14:57 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 13:58:54 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20213 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:58:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21063 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:59:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 5890 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:58:47 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 17750 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:44:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16487 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:40:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16434 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 03:03:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16431 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 03:03:07 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 03:03:07 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134EJd-000A9n-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:03:05 +0100 Message-ID: <00c301bfda64$3f36bd40$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:04:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk id NAA20213 if this appears twice then apologies as the first posting seemed to get lost in the ether somewhere ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:15 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard that woman posted to the list 'may you all rot in hell' she admitted she had a serious drink problem. they had to bring in a 3 posts a day limit as she was posting zillions of things which made no sense to anyone . she has now quit the list so what is your point then? she caused trouble on the compuserve forums and my ISP wrote and told her to stop wasting their time with spurious compaints against me. i informed my local police that she might be contacting them and they said it was up to us two to sort ourselves out as postings to a mailing which a person voluntarily choses to receive weree outside their jurisdiction . my ISP and her ISP told her the same thing. additionally when i asked her repeatedly to stop sending me private flame she refused . her ISP nearly took HER account away. it's all there in the archives so keep looking (waste of bloddy time if you ask me though) ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia ------------------------------ Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you are going to get. - +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 14:15:07 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 14:14:57 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:00:13 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20885 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:00:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21235 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:00:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 6255 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:00:07 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:00:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:45:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16539 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16476 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 03:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 16473 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 03:03:55 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 03:03:55 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134EKP-000AA2-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: <00cd01bfda64$5bdc1d00$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:05:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk id OAA20885 if this appears twice then apologies as first one seemed to go walkabout ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard thanks for reminding me to set the block on you. right i have told you the true story regarding sylvia morris . this can be easily verified. if you post anything about this to anyone which is libellous or which does not reflect the true story (little point then?) i will sue the pants off you and get an injuction on your site. do NOT test me on this without prejudice ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia ------------------------------ Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you are going to get. - +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 14:29:38 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 14:29:58 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:27:53 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07427 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:27:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25413 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:28:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 10799 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:27:45 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20913 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:57:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16765 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:41:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 18488 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 03:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18485 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 03:31:37 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 03:31:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.171] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134ElF-000AP6-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:31:37 +0100 Message-ID: <00e301bfda68$35aac060$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] quoi? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:32:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fisheye wrote: just to say 'get on with it then, you keep saying it' In my last mail I said I'd give ou the last word. I am unsubbing, fuck you, my addres is 14-16n prospect St, caversham, reading, berks. just to save you hassle searching it out when you start your legal proceedings. My real name is Salvatore Bartolomei. You better hope I never meet you Ian Gomeche. er yes well. actually i had no plans to take action against you as i don't feel that you have been particularly libellous the threat of action was aimed at bayliss who went ahead and posted stuff re me and sylvia morris to the list even though i advised him not to? your last sentence would not be some sort of physical threat now would it? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 14:29:37 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 14:29:57 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:23:38 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04966 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:23:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24651 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:23:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 10322 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:23:36 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18720 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16824 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20051 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 04:57:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 20048 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 04:57:56 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 04:57:56 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134G6j-000B7h-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <014401bfda74$2600a060$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: quoi? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:58:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk someone unsubbed me . note the time i origially sent it. i have just resubscribed ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:32 AM Subject: quoi? > fisheye wrote: > > just to say 'get on with it then, you keep saying it' > In my last mail I said I'd give ou the last word. I am unsubbing, fuck > you, my addres is 14-16n prospect St, > caversham, > reading, > berks. > > just to save you hassle searching it out when you start your legal > proceedings. My real name is Salvatore Bartolomei. > > You better hope I never meet you Ian Gomeche. > > er yes well. actually i had no plans to take action against you as i don't > feel that you have been particularly libellous > the threat of action was aimed at bayliss who went ahead and posted stuff > re me and sylvia morris to the list even though i advised him not to? > > your last sentence would not be some sort of physical threat now would it? > > ian > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 14:29:37 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 14:29:58 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:24:21 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05387 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:24:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24702 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:24:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 10427 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:24:20 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:24:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 18935 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16908 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 12:42:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20074 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 04:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20071 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 04:58:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 04:58:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134G7Y-000B8Y-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <015001bfda74$44280c40$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:59:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i was unsubbed by some democratic person not origial time sent ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ian gomeche=20 To: mark thomas=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:04 AM Subject: Fw: sad bastard if this appears twice then apologies as the first posting seemed to get = lost in the ether somewhere ian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ian gomeche=20 To: mike bayliss=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:15 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard that woman posted to the list 'may you all rot in hell' she admitted she = had a serious drink problem. they had to bring in a 3 posts a day limit = as she was posting zillions of things which made no sense to anyone . = she has now quit the list so what is your point then? she caused trouble on the compuserve forums and my ISP wrote and told = her to stop wasting their time with spurious compaints against me. i informed my local police that she might be contacting them and they = said it was up to us two to sort ourselves out as postings to a mailing = which a person voluntarily choses to receive weree outside their = jurisdiction . my ISP and her ISP told her the same thing. additionally = when i asked her repeatedly to stop sending me private flame she refused = . her ISP nearly took HER account away. it's all there in the archives = so keep looking (waste of bloddy time if you ask me though) ig ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike bayliss=20 To: ian gomeche=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: = 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear = from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia = ------------------------------=20 Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I = either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and = the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I = need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or = sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy = everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the = same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 = From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm = very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil = surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has = made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental = cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia = - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 = From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to = remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually = said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's = divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start = to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well = affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. = Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 = <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind = me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. = Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I = don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the = US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not = police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to = resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone = whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly = if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the = injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can = vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts = he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just = how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone = outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or = civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be = letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't = stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from = you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop = now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you = are going to get. -=20 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:07:28 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:07:54 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:44:56 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17998 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:44:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27451 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:45:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 14151 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:44:53 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24544 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:10:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 22361 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 13:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20094 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 04:59:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20091 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 04:59:09 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 04:59:09 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134G7u-000B8t-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:59:06 +0100 Message-ID: <015a01bfda74$51066ba0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:59:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk id OAA17998 unsubbed ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:05 AM Subject: Fw: sad bastard if this appears twice then apologies as first one seemed to go walkabout ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard thanks for reminding me to set the block on you. right i have told you the true story regarding sylvia morris . this can be easily verified. if you post anything about this to anyone which is libellous or which does not reflect the true story (little point then?) i will sue the pants off you and get an injuction on your site. do NOT test me on this without prejudice ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia ------------------------------ Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you are going to get. - +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:40:19 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:40:16 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 15:17:43 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08512 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:17:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31727 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:18:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 19774 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 14:17:40 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 14:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28550 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27411 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 13:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 20189 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 05:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20186 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 05:03:41 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 05:03:41 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134GCH-000BG4-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:03:37 +0100 Message-ID: <016c01bfda74$f15f9d60$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: sad bastard Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:03:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk id PAA08512 unsubbed! if this appears twice then apologies as first one seemed to go walkabout ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: mike bayliss Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: Re: sad bastard thanks for reminding me to set the block on you. right i have told you the true story regarding sylvia morris . this can be easily verified. if you post anything about this to anyone which is libellous or which does not reflect the true story (little point then?) i will sue the pants off you and get an injuction on your site. do NOT test me on this without prejudice ig ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:04 AM Subject: sad bastard 72132,3214 TO: "ian gomeche", INTERNET:igomeche@[redacted].co.uk DATE: 30/09/99 00:19 RE: Copy of: Very final warning I do not wish to hear from you again. If I do I will contact the police. Sylvia ------------------------------ Subject: Can anyone help? As I see it I only have two options: 1. I either terminate all of my internet access. 2. Or I get the police and the ''law" involved in this. I think this has got to the stage where I need to have conversations with people in front of witnesses and/or or sponsors. Any idea how I can do this? I think I will in future copy everything I send to a selected third party. Would other people do the same if they think it is a good idea? Sylvia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:33:41 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Can't say I'm very impressed with this so far What is that quote? Something about evil surviving because good people stand by and do nothing? This "abuse" has made me and other people ill. I can prove it. We are talking "mental cruelty" or "actual bodily harm" here. So what do I do about it? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0400 From: Sylvia Morris <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: I'm starting to remember a few things I misquoted something I think. What was actually said on Hignfy was something like this. What would cost a million? Al's divorce from "the cat". Who is the cat? At what point did things start to go wrong last year? Think about it people please. This could well affect all of us Al fans. There are some very bad vibes going around. Where are they coming from? And when did it start? Sylvia - ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 <72132.3214@[redacted].com> Subject: Re: Bad vibes? Hope you don't mind me forwarding this Mark. I need some assistance with the legalities. Perhaps someone knows someone? Sylvia Morris - ---------- Forwarded . I don't know how such things are viewed under British law, but here in the US, I think you'd definitely have a case for harrassment. Whether or not police would get involved is open to question; I suspect one might to resort to civil suits, but over here, the deck is stacked against anyone whose actions could conceivably be considered harrassment, particularly if it's a man against a woman. I think yo have the take the lead, as the injured party, but there should certainly be plenty of people who can vouch for the mean-spirited, vindictive, insulting nature of the posts he's been sending out to his private little cc: mailing list, and just how malicious he's been getting. I would doubt, however, that anyone outside of Britain would be of any use to you in a British legal or civil action. But don't sever your internet conenctions...that would be letting him win. ? First things first. Ian Gomeche, if you haven't stopped by now, please stop now. As in If I get any further email from you after 2pm BST today, I _will_ report you to the police. If you stop now I will _not_ report you to the police. That is the best offer you are going to get. - +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 12:30:10 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 12:30:08 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 06:23:39 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18185 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:23:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA13660 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:23:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 12090 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 05:23:36 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 05:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 20506 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 05:23:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20317 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 05:22:39 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 20314 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 05:22:39 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 05:22:39 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134GUc-000BUX-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: <018c01bfda77$8b32f840$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] heavy legal stuff Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:22:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Melanie Codling Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [mt] heavy legal stuff > i'm confused by this. i spoke to geoff atkinson for a hour today. tried to > speak to mark's manager but she was away. > > how am i a name dropper by saying i will discuss this flame nonsense with > them if things don't improve?. i hope things will improve and that i won't > have to. > > i think i am quite a good journalist. peter curtain on the yorkshire post > certainly thinks so as he won an award for a major > running story i gave him . every time i phone him he says 'ian have you got > another award winning story for me today' > > i suppose you will say that is namedropping also. you did ask > > ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melanie Codling > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 5:31 AM > Subject: Re: [mt] heavy legal stuff > > > > Such a name dropper!!! If you really knew these people, you would already > be > > speaking to them! I mean, what kind of journalist can't type? > > > > Anyway, I am not being nasty, but I have told you before, stop threatening > > to do things, and do them!! > > > > I cannot stress how many times I personally have mailed you to remind you > > that Mark Thomas actually has nothing to do with this list!! Still you > seem > > to think that he does! Please do start up another list... you are > certainly > > more than welcome, and no one is stopping you. The Official Mark Thomas > > list. This list is supposed to be dealing with issues, and having a laugh, > > organising pranks and the like, it is very informative at the best of > times, > > but not when mindless tiffs get underway, and people start having > tantrums. > > Why can't you either chalk this down to a difference of opinion, or go and > > talk to one of these many names you have been dropping, and see what they > > say?? > > > > Please do something, cos this isn't even mildly amusing. > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:40:19 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:40:17 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 15:19:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09771 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:19:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32220 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:20:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 20122 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 14:19:44 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 14:19:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28723 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:27:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27460 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 13:23:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20794 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 05:32:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20791 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 05:32:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 05:32:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134GeZ-000Bel-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:32:52 +0100 Message-ID: <01b801bfda78$f4d391a0$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: quoi? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:32:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > fisheye wrote: > > just to say 'get on with it then, you keep saying it' > In my last mail I said I'd give ou the last word. I am unsubbing, fuck > you, my addres is 14-16n prospect St, > caversham, > reading, > berks. > > just to save you hassle searching it out when you start your legal > proceedings. My real name is Salvatore Bartolomei. > > You better hope I never meet you Ian Gomeche. > > er yes well. actually i had no plans to take action against you as i don't > feel that you have been particularly libellous > the threat of action was aimed at bayliss who went ahead and posted stuff > re me and sylvia morris to the list even though i advised him not to? > > your last sentence would not be some sort of physical threat now would it? > think your next email is most certainly a physical threat though! > > ian > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:40:20 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:40:19 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 15:21:25 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10869 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:21:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32426 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:21:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 20360 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 14:21:23 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 14:21:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28818 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27486 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 13:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20864 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 05:42:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20861 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 05:42:26 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 05:42:26 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.107] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Gnp-000Bjf-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:42:25 +0100 Message-ID: <01be01bfda7a$48fa6d20$ab5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] no flame rule? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:42:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk some list have a no flame on-list rule. while not easy to enforce, this seems to work well. i mean do 200 really want to spend their whole time wading through a lot of flame? might be agood idea here except you would never accept that as many of you just love all the agro and often cause it then say you can't stand it and you are unsubbing confusing i suppose when YOU are doing the flaming or posting private stuff to the list then that is O.K. somehow. if someone flames you back you just can't handle it. not very mature really? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 12:30:18 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 12:30:16 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 10:34:18 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21659 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:34:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01729 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:34:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 4403 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:34:07 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:34:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12713 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 09:28:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 12243 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 09:27:20 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12141 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.195] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134KJ9-000HOL-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:26:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bfda99$e5a65d40$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] Re: abusive emails Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:28:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:27 AM Subject: Fw: [mt] Re: abusive emails > VReturn-Path: mark-thomas-owner-ian=ikg.co.uk@[redacted].gbnet.net > X-Envelope-To: igomeche@[redacted].co.uk > Received: from pandora.clara.net ([195.8.69.98] helo=pandora.uk.clara.net) > by nemesis.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) > id 134Jv6-000F9B-00 > for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:02:08 +0100 > Received: from claranet by pandora.uk.clara.net with local (Exim 3.03 #6) > id 134Jv6-000M1f-00 > for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:02:08 +0100 > Received: from [194.70.126.12] (helo=agent57.gbnet.net) > by pandora.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #6) > id 134Jv6-000M1Z-00 > for ian@ikg.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:02:08 +0100 > Received: (qmail 1489 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:02:07 -0000 > Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) > by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:02:07 -0000 > Received: (qmail 10449 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 09:01:42 -0000 > Received: (qmail 10213 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:00:54 -0000 > Received: from duck.a2000.nl (HELO smtp2.a2000.nl) (62.108.1.88) > by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:00:54 -0000 > Received: from node14e0f.a2000.nl ([24.132.78.15] helo=oemcomputer) > by smtp2.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4) > id 134Jtt-0005aq-00 > for mark-thomas@gbnet.net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:00:53 +0200 > From: "Jerry " > To: mark-thomas@gbnet.net > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:00:49 +0200 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Subject: [mt] Re: abusive emails > Reply-to: jerry@[redacted].com > In-reply-to: <000801bfda95$4558e820$c35608c3@oemcomputer> > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) > Message-Id: > Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net > Precedence: bulk > X-UIDL: 961491729.58237.nemesis.clara.net > X-RCPT: igomeche > Status: U > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:00 AM > Subject: [mt] Re: abusive emails > > > > On 20 Jun 00, at 9:55, ian gomeche wrote: > > > > > this is my one and only request to you to ask you not to attempt to > > > communicate with me again. a copy of this email is being saved. if you > email > > > me again i will contact the abuse section of your internet service > provider. > > > > > > understand? > > > > > > good > > > > > > ian gomeche > > > > > Should be interesting. I also save *all* my mails, and all the mails > > that come in. > > Unfortunately, I wrote to the list, not to you. And that is precisely > > why I continue to send these mails to the list, *not* to you > > personally. > > Oh, and the server is a personal friend of mine. Very small > > company. You can contact him direct if you like - he can be much > > more abusive than me :-) > > Now what i would ask is that you stop bothering this list with > > nonsense. If you're willing to leave it here - not just with me, but > > with everyone else, that's fine. I'm not the first person to ask you to > > stop what you're doing - such as making random, unfulfilled threats > > of legal action, of contacting Mark & co. > > So, let's rehearse that line *again* yeah? I'll shut up as soon as > > you do. > > > > Jerry > > "Don't take life too seriously. You'll never get out of it alive." > > - Bugs Bunny > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 12:30:19 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 12:30:17 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 10:37:48 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23526 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:37:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02069 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:38:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 6310 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:37:35 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:37:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 14743 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 09:35:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14411 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 09:34:38 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14403 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 09:34:37 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 09:34:37 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134KQW-000Hc3-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:34:36 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01bfda9a$f621eb20$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: abuse 2 of 2 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:36:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 8:07 AM Subject: abuse 2 of 2 > Received: (qmail 10467 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 03:54:13 -0000 > Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with > SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 03:54:13 -0000 > Received: (qmail 19196 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 03:53:55 -0000 > Received: (qmail 18952 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 03:53:06 -0000 > Received: from chalfont.mail.easynet.net (195.40.1.44) by ns.gbnet.net with > SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 03:53:06 -0000 > Received: from ukonline.co.uk (tnt-8-276.easynet.co.uk [195.40.205.20]) by > chalfont.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4FF8687; Tue, 20 Jun > 2000 04:53:04 +0100 (BST) > Message-ID: <394EEA20.9E9524A1@[redacted].co.uk> > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:50:56 +0100 > From: fisheye > Organization: There ain't no Sanity Claus. > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: mt , ian gomeche > Subject: [mt] if i see him, i'll throttle him! > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net > Precedence: bulk > > do what you like with this email, use a it as evidence agains=t me if u > like, I don't care, i am leaving the list because i cannot filter you > out of that. > The list has been of great help to me in the last year or so, helping > get back on my feet in many ways, it really is a fantastic community, > and I can barely live withouit you all, but this guy is a cunt and until > I can meet him to punch him in the fucking face I will not be happy. i > don't care, I am so angry and upset i have to leave because of 1 > pathetic wanker who is so objectionable . The authorities can take my > comp as well if they like, get an injunction on me, I;'ll have little > use for the comp if I am noit on the list, I have nothing to lose. > just get on with your idle fucking threats wanker. > > can you tel i am losing it a bit?!!!! > > hehe, thats cos I wanna throttle this ian Gomeche and he's all the way > up in Scotland, lucky for him. > The only way I could contemplate staying is if he drops this offlist, > I am not asking him to not get an injunction out etc, he can do what he > likes. And I doubt there is little chance of him taking it offlist as we > can see. he has repeated these threats over and over, now I want him to > do it. B4 I couldn't care either way. > If he ain't taken it off list by midday today, Tueday, i am leaving, > I'd best leave it a few hrs as the mail can sometimes be slow, and i am > hoping he will take it offlist. I don't want to miss the chance of > staying if I can. > > in fact, smoking this doobie has calmed me a bit, so how about you just > let me know via the list if you are agreeable to stopping the posts > relating to this subject onlist, at least until you have something > concrete, rather than the threats which u r just repeating, something > like, your aryticle, or the letter from the solicitor about the > threatend injunction etc. basically something real, rather than talk. > > > I know this is ueless, but I'll have a go... > -- > 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 > o > O > O o > o > O > o > <@>< > > > Fisheye in Cyberspace: > http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ > Visit this site or another Moose dies. > > ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ > (..) > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 12:30:33 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 12:30:31 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 12:02:44 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11792 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:02:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10347 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:02:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 13823 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 11:02:36 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 11:02:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23571 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 11:02:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23393 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 11:01:37 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 23390 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 11:01:37 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 11:01:37 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Lmi-000KYX-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:01:36 +0100 Message-ID: <00e501bfdaa7$1d2327a0$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] abusive and annoying emails Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:03:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk oh what fun games some people are playing. one fool thinks because he is friendly with the ISP boss or whatever that he can play his silly games. wrong . email abuse is viewed in the web community as a serious thing and rightly so. odd that steve who feels so strongly about squattiing apparently couldn't give a monkeys about all this my ISP, one of the U.K.'s biggest and soon to grow much bigger as they are the partners with alta vista in their new unmetered service, takes abuse incredibly seriously and will pressure the offender's ISP to take action if they irresposibly refuse to do so themselves. jerry won't find it so funny having to go through the hassle of changing ISP/email address all the time. my record for getting someone kicked off was 2 hours on a saturday afternoon . well done hotmail. very impressive. NOTE it is essential to ask the person in writing to stop communicating with you first before an ISP will normally entertain your complaint unless the abuse is very serious. e.g. in the case of fisheye's serious physical threats and the use of words like c***. if his ISP is resposible (not all are) he will be kicked off. for that any more takers? ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 12:30:39 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 12:30:36 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 12:27:07 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26631 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:27:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12878 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:27:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 18959 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 11:27:03 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 11:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 28932 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 11:26:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28665 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 11:25:27 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 28632 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 11:25:22 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 11:25:22 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134M9g-000LJW-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:25:21 +0100 Message-ID: <00eb01bfdaaa$6e00b9a0$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] idots ? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:26:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk kevin put in his subject line : Mini Meet, photos and idots (sic) is this a new trendy e-commerce term ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 13:54:22 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 13:54:39 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 13:08:40 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21910 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:08:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16909 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:08:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 25873 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:08:37 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:08:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6298 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:05:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5888 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 12:04:45 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5766 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:04:24 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:04:24 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134MlS-000MWN-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: <015301bfdaaf$e1884780$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] abusive and annoying emails Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:05:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk no it would not unless i had made serious physical threats or had launched a torrent of extreme abuse or sent some hard porn or something like that. i said, if you recall, that it is necessary in most general cases to write to the person first asking them to stop sending you mail. if they then send you any more ,abusive or not , their ISP will usually take action. the fisheye one with the physical threats is criminal period and is definitely a red card offence in the eyes of most ISP's i will be extremely surprised if he is not thrown off for that ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Bawden Benjamin To: 'ian gomeche' ; mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: RE: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > Well, that's all very well, but wouldn't that only apply if you had not been > abusive yourself? > > -----Original Message----- > From: ian gomeche [mailto:ian@ikg.co.uk] > Sent: 20 June 2000 12:03 > To: mark thomas > Subject: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > > > oh what fun games some people are playing. > > one fool thinks because he is friendly with the ISP boss or whatever that > he can play his silly games. > > wrong . email abuse is viewed in the web community as a serious thing and > rightly so. > > odd that steve who feels so strongly about squattiing apparently couldn't > give a monkeys about all this > > > my ISP, one of the U.K.'s > biggest and soon to grow much bigger as they are the partners with alta > vista in their new unmetered service, takes abuse incredibly seriously and > will pressure the offender's ISP to take action if they irresposibly refuse > to do so themselves. > > jerry won't find it so funny having to go through the hassle of changing > ISP/email address all the time. > > my record for getting someone kicked off was 2 hours on a saturday afternoon > . well done hotmail. very impressive. > > NOTE it is essential to ask the person in writing to stop communicating > with you first before an ISP will normally entertain your complaint unless > the abuse is very serious. e.g. in the case of fisheye's serious physical > threats and the use of words like > c***. > > if his ISP is resposible (not all are) he will be kicked off. for that > > any more takers? > > ian > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. 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Tue Jun 20 13:54:36 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 13:54:54 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 13:21:43 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29957 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:21:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17953 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:21:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 27868 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:21:33 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:21:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 9553 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 9355 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 12:20:27 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 9352 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:20:25 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:20:25 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134N0y-000Mst-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:20:25 +0100 Message-ID: <019901bfdab2$1eadbe40$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] jack straws castle (used to drink there)( Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:21:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk mike richards wrote: Think about it, Jack Straw's slogan uses the word 'tolerant' - you couldn't make it up could you?' when i was at univ a zillion years ago (or so it seems) we had a right little lefty scourge of the establishment trot called jack straw who was leader of the NUS now we have a home secretary called jack strraw who is to the right of attila the hun i wonder , if by any chance, they are related? i think we should be told ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:44 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:39 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 18:03:43 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21998 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:03:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19148 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:43:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 1402 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:34:15 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:34:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 13677 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 12:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 12987 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 12:30:57 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12892 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:30:44 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:30:44 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134NAx-000N8z-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:30:43 +0100 Message-ID: <01cf01bfdab3$8f154440$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] quoi ? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:32:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk the two 'sad bastard' posts from me which just suddenly appeared on the list were sent at 3 a.m. this morning. i thought they had dissapeared (or something more sinister) does this often happen/ ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:07:07 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:07:31 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 14:36:30 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12707 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:36:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26235 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:36:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 12335 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:36:19 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:36:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22053 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19552 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 12:51:34 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 17902 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 12:45:09 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 12:45:09 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134NOu-000NaQ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: <01db01bfdab5$92a536e0$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] i had a list once Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:46:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk it would probably absolutely amaze most of you that i had a successful list called [LORD GNOME} blatent Prvate eye rip off - not really as i was always plugging private eye mag which was new to most of the members as they were mostly americans. from guess what? yes the al strewart list!!!! well well welll one of the few list rules (apart from no flame or bigotry) was that taking the piss, especially out of was compulsory we stabalised at about 80 members with very few unsubs. funnily enought i posted some stuff which a friend asked me to, about the appalling treatment of women in afghanistan, which i assumed most people would symphasize with. incredibly , i had 5 unsub requests in the next 15 minutes - more that the whole of the last week. we reckoned that it had made the americans uncomfortable as the al stewart crowd liked to see the world through 'everything- is-wonderful rose tinted spectacles 'and this somehow did not square with that. i am not being critical here just trying to explain it as best we saw it i never bothered creating an archive but i expect there are some postings floating around cyberspace somewhere comments anyone? ian in pensive mood +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Tue Jun 20 15:40:11 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Jun 20 15:40:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 15:07:33 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02306 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:07:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30384 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:07:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 17516 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 14:07:29 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 14:07:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 25973 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 13:16:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23288 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 13:06:07 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21856 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 13:01:34 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 13:01:34 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.68] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Nen-000O1X-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:01:34 +0100 Message-ID: <01f901bfdab7$dd8ae180$c35608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] lost in cyberspace Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:03:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk james explained why HTML posts can get delayed thanks james. BTW, i think it is most annoying that lookout distress sets the sending mail default to HTMl. i always forget that so when i have to do one of my periodic unbugger-it-up reinstalls, i find that i have being sending naughty HTML postings by the time i remember.and feel a complete wally [so what's new? - ed] ever happen to anyone else? james also wrote: 'btw: you refer to being unsub'd. I think that was you on Sunday evening, but you remained on the "digest" list:' yes i know i unsubbed from the normal list on sunday as i was getting swamped , but when my mail dissapeared last night i thought i had been unsubbed from the digest as well . [who would ever even consider doing such a dasterdly thing? - ed] [well who knows? - ian] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:28 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:26 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 17:17:20 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27706 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:17:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05669 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:17:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 19051 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:17:16 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:17:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 19239 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 14:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18270 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 14:48:52 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 16748 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 14:41:14 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 14:41:14 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134PDD-0001J9-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:41:11 +0100 Message-ID: <00a501bfdac5$c9e7fe20$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] settling down? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:42:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i really would like to see things settle down re the flame as apart from anything else there are only so many times you can call me a w***er or whatever. (though no doubt , several of you would say that i could never be called that enough times) and it is just soooo boring to wade through all the time. therefore, i should point out that my last few posts were actually posted very early this morning after a night of very heavy flame and have only just made it to the list. if i really WERE posting those now, particularly the last one . i probably would be less forthright as i think things really are settling down now unless it's just cos not everyone works like me or has access to this list at work.. let us see was this evening brings ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:34 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:32 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 17:37:19 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09131 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:37:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07348 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:37:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 26073 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:37:16 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:37:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27998 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 15:21:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26970 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 15:17:34 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 26812 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 15:16:49 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 15:16:49 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Plg-0002SG-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:16:48 +0100 Message-ID: <00b801bfdaca$c383b1a0$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" Cc: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] I vote to boot him. Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:18:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i must answer pete's crap even though i am supposed to trying to calm things down. here are the facts re al stewart list . whether you choose to accept them is of course up to (motto of the daily sport - never let the facts get in the way of a good story) 1. even those on al stewart who called me a troll realised i wasn't and withdrew that accusation as i posted a lot of good early al reminscences. 2. several people threatened to leave if i was expelled 3. most members of the list never voted 4. i still have many friends from that list'' 5. about 80 members of that list (of about 200) were happy subscribers to [LORD GNOME] - strange for a univerally hated troll nes't pas.? anyone who wanted off came off immediately. no one was there who did not want to be. before i folded the list - mainly due to protracted computer problems (i now have 3 computers ) only a very few were unsubbing each week and even more were joining. 6. many people pointed out that my card was marked when i fell out with kim dyer who runs the lst (it is actually owned by muffy barcoky) 7. her henchmen (someone coined the term - not me) matually supported her. 8. one guy evn called her the 'goddess' of the group . i mean 9. most members of the list did not even vote. i.e. they could give a stuff 10. some people pointed out anyone who did not like my stuff could simply block me as could happen here 11. sylvia morris - yes that sylvia morris proposed renaming it the al stewart maUling list after the way i was treated. (we were friends then) 12. someone else said no mjust call it the maUling list as al stewart would never want his name attacheed to it. 13. many brits after a short period due to being given a hard time 14. there is a real culture differencwe problem on that list which al's manager recognises as the list is very U.S biassed 15. muffy shot the list down for a period do to flame wars . this happen some time after i left 16. ther have been several fierce flame wars ever since the list began 17. jolayne white (one of the most respected members argued long and hard for me to stay and she often chivvied me to post more al reminences 18. a few people told me privately that there were some nasty people on that list and i quote 19. bill kerr one of the most outspoken and highly respected members of the list unsubscribed from al stewart as he could not take all the agro. he asked if he could join [LORD GNOME] instead - which he did 20.. does this all sound familiar? 21. mark thomas is a man of tollerance and not a bigot 22. if you really must waste your time reading the al stewart archives, at least do it thoroughly. several of you are posting the 'juciest' postings out of context and ballence. as if the rest of you are not as stupid enough not to realise that ian ----- Original Message ----- From: pete To: mt Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: [mt] I vote to boot him. > hi, > > If any of you are still wondering just what Mr Gomeche is all about then why > not visit http://www.things.org/music/al_stewart/digest_archives/v03.n1284 > > Here you will find a digest of emails from the "Al Stewart" mailing list. > Some of these are from our favourite troll and follow exactly the same > pattern as he did here. Most people ignored him, the more sensitive souls > blocked him and I would guess he probably caused more than one to unsub for > a while. > > Honestly. What are you on Ian? We'll take anyone on this list but you have > to start threatening people and phoning them up. Now why don't you make > like a good little troll and FUCK OFF and bother someone else. > > With extreme prejudice. > > > pete > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:41 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:38 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 17:53:36 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17261 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:53:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11459 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:54:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 4345 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:53:34 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 5280 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 15:49:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4974 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 15:48:05 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4651 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 15:46:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 15:46:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134QEh-0003Li-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:46:47 +0100 Message-ID: <00dc01bfdace$f3658ca0$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] prince huissein Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:48:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk mike adams wrote eloquently thus: 'I know its old but I *think* 'ego machine' is a C**T.' very witty (not) when prince huissein was a cadet at sandhurst a sergeant major yelled at him on parade one day : 'wake up you idle little monarch' true apparently ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:51 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:48 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 18:16:04 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27878 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:16:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15456 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:16:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 12669 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:16:01 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:16:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14729 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 16:20:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 13691 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 16:16:09 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12671 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:12:22 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:12:22 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134QdR-0004Jl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:12:21 +0100 Message-ID: <012e01bfdad2$84db11c0$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] hypocrites Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:13:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk well thats' up to you if it's your ISP . i know that different ISP's respond differently .some take the c word and threats of violence extremely seriously and boot the offender straight off especially when that person had been informed in writing that his mail was not welcome . generally some of the smaller ISP's have a coudn't give a stuff attitude to abuse. funny how it' s perfectly O.K. for your beloved fish to swear his head off at me and threaten me physically even though i hadn't made the slightest mention of sueing him or even thinking about it yet some here are calling for my blood for - well i don't know - you tell me? is your ISP a member of ISPA or national equivalent. bet not. ian as i said the guy who sent me 'look you fuckwit' was thrown off hotmail within 2 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: gossi To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: [mt] A quick note about Ian.. > > Sorry to bring this up again, but just to point out: > > a) I run an ISP. If Ian had contacted me about our users posting any of > the messages sent on the mailing list, I would have taken no action > against the users in question. > > b) Several of his messages are libelous. > > c) This mailing is not official, or endoursed by Vera Productions or > Channel 4 Television. > > I suggest gbnet.net unsubscribe him asap. > > Regards, > gossi@[redacted].lab6.com. > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:52 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:49 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 18:16:47 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28199 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:16:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15607 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:17:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 13118 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:16:44 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:16:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16216 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 16:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15683 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 16:24:39 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14744 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:20:05 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:20:05 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Qku-0004cS-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:20:04 +0100 Message-ID: <013e01bfdad3$988b8be0$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] hypocracy 2 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:21:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk jayne wrote: 'You may have valid points but by slagging fisheye et al you won't make any friends here.' you all keep conveniently forgetting that THEY started slagging ME off first. not that that matters to many of you 'democratic liberal minded' (who am i calling democratic liberal minded?) people ian if i repeat this enough times it is just vaguely possible that some you might just see my POV [not a snowflakes chance in hell - ed] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:03:58 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:03:55 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 18:28:47 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03511 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:28:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17223 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:29:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 19030 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:28:44 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:28:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 179 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 17:04:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29265 invoked by uid 102); 20 Jun 2000 17:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21270 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 16:39:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21261 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 16:39:24 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 16:39:24 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134R3b-0005eM-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:39:23 +0100 Message-ID: <017401bfdad6$4b384a60$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] unsubbing Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:40:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk gossi wrote: Indeed. Ian has successfully torn up a mailing list which has been successful for years, within a week. it is impossible for 1 person to tear up a sound list only possibly a shaky one where so much pointless flaming goes on . your decision to unsub not mine. you could always block/delete me as i do with gallons of unwanted mail every day ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:04:03 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:04:00 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 18:32:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05270 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:32:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17744 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:32:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 21559 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:32:19 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 9144 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 17:27:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8608 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 17:25:33 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 8462 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:25:00 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:25:00 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Rli-0007YJ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:24:59 +0100 Message-ID: <01e601bfdadc$a78d9f80$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] Kissen May Cup Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:26:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk 3. Who said 'She go crazy!'? easy manuel no idea about the rest ----- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:04:13 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:04:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 19:34:58 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00089 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:34:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24747 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:35:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 3209 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 18:34:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 18:34:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20056 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 18:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19264 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 18:01:12 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 18602 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 17:58:25 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 17:58:26 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134SI4-0008U6-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:58:24 +0100 Message-ID: <021201bfdae1$519b6b20$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "gossi" Cc: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] unsubbing Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:59:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk sorry i was speaking generally . i should have done a prince charles and said 'one' of course. sloppy english ian ----- Original Message ----- From: gossi To: ian gomeche Cc: mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [mt] unsubbing > > I haven't unsubbed. > > gossi@[redacted].lab6.com > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, ian gomeche wrote: > > > gossi wrote: > > > > Indeed. Ian has successfully torn up a mailing list which has been > > successful for years, within a week. > > > > it is impossible for 1 person to tear up a sound list only possibly a shaky > > one where so much pointless flaming goes on . your decision to unsub not > > mine. you could always block/delete me > > as i do with gallons of unwanted mail every day > > > > ian > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:04:26 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:04:24 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 19:58:24 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08041 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:58:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27033 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:58:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 14262 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 18:58:04 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 18:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 25176 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 18:23:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 23651 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 18:16:55 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 22322 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 18:12:18 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 18:12:18 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134SVV-0008oH-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <023601bfdae3$4133ac00$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] saving bandwidth - you know it makes sense Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:13:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk well, i for one, am up for that. but it will never never never happen as ripping into me all the time has now become the main (blood) sport of several people here and that is never going to stop until they find some other poor sucker to gang up on. at least if people could reduce the number of attacks - i know, into one bloody great attack - then that would save a lot of bandwidth and give me less deleting to do partic if you could put in the subject line : 'this is yet another attack on ian do not bother opening' that would save everybody a lot of time and hastle. ian ----- Original Message ----- From: purplestar To: Peekay Cc: mt Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [mt] Just Say No! > i guess i'm adding to it too but since this mail it hasn't stopped. PLEASE > STOP it's got really boring, irritating, expensive (loading all these > messages). > PLEASE STOP sending it all to the list. > Thanks > > > >Hi, > > > >All those who find the arguments between Ian Gomeche and others annoying or > >timewasting, and those involved in the arguments, can we say that from > >today we take it all off-list? No more posts about this, or anything > >related to it? > > > >OK I know I am adding to it with this one, but lets give it a try eh? > > > >PK > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:04:19 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:04:16 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 19:53:07 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06214 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:53:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA26483 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:53:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 10831 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 18:53:01 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 18:53:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27008 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 18:29:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25984 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 18:25:58 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 25546 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 18:24:27 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 18:24:27 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134ShG-00095s-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:24:26 +0100 Message-ID: <024e01bfdae4$f2d04f80$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] freudian slip Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:25:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk just realised i had written: 'i think things really are settling down now unless it's just cos not everyone works like me what i MEANT to write 'not everyone works from home like me.......' deerrrr ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:04:58 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:04:53 2000) X-From_: daemon Tue Jun 20 20:40:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23699 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:40:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA31140 for <[redacted]>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:41:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 27671 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 19:40:29 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 19:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18401 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 19:39:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18013 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 19:37:53 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 17791 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.111] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134TpX-000Afr-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:37:03 +0100 Message-ID: <02c801bfdaef$123d2820$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] saving bandwidth - you know it makes sense Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:38:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > >someone wrote: > > > >' Ian, if you still want to reply to any attacks you get from people, why > > not do it off-list? (please?)' > if they attack me on-list as they DELIBERATELY chose to do as causing me > maximum embarrassment is all part of the plan, then i feel compelled to > defend myself on-list. i would rather there was no flame at all as it is just a > complete waste of time. if there really has got to be some, i would obviously > prefer it to be off-list . up to the flamers really then isn't it. ? > > i keep being asked to stop the attacks ON MYSELF er yes!. that is the big problem . several > people want everyone to think it is all me fault somehow. i still haven't > figured how i drove fisheye away. he just seemed to self desTruct (too mch > weed for all i know) > we had not even had a flame row for ages before that. he seemed to think i > was going to sue HIM when i was speaking generally. of course i had bayliss > in mind . 'look what i found about ian in an old archive'. never mind the fact > the woman was getting medical help - which she admitted. never mind she > avcused people on the list of destroying her marriage. she even accused me > of interfering with the maiL between her and one of her chums (his mail > server was sick if i recall) > > ian > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:06:23 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:06:21 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 01:12:56 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26988 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:12:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21205 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:13:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 10939 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:12:55 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:12:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3739 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 00:02:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3155 invoked by uid 102); 21 Jun 2000 00:00:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4960 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:24:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1379 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134WFe-000Eko-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:12:10 +0100 Message-ID: <001801bfdb04$ca16b0a0$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "j mcsh" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <00b801bfdaca$c383b1a0$6f5608c3@oemcomputer> <014101bfdaff$37012200$b23a073e@o> Subject: [mt] NO ONE expects the spanish inquisition Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:13:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk j mcsh (what sort of name is that fer christs sake) wrote: 'you seem to keep unsubbing but never leave ? with all due respect why are you still here ps who do you work' what utter bullshit is the 'with all due respect' bit. your last post showed you have zero respect for me. so why the crap? bit like geoff saying 'would you mind awfully fucking off' or what ever obsequeous garbage he writes bugger all to do with you really. both bits. actually i work for myself - have my own company no doubt this will elect some sort of smartarse jibe from one of you JA henchmen who have nothing better to do than pick holes in people. sign of inadequacy if you are compelled to keep doing that - i reckon . why can't you just say 'well ian's not so bad really' or 'ian's just another guy . live is too short to go round giving the bloke a hard time cos i'm a miserable git/rodent/fish whatever' [pigs might fly - ed] ian ----- Original Message ----- From: j mcsh To: ian gomeche Cc: mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [mt] I vote to boot him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ian gomeche" > Cc: "mark thomas" > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: [mt] I vote to boot him. > > > > > > > > i must answer pete's crap even though i am supposed to trying to calm > > things down. > > > > here are the facts re al stewart list . whether you choose to accept them > > is of course up to (motto of the daily sport - never let the facts get in > > the way of a good story) > > > > 1. even those on al stewart who called me a troll realised i wasn't and > > withdrew that accusation as i posted a lot of good early al reminscences. > > > > 2. several people threatened to leave if i was expelled > > > > 3. most members of the list never voted > > > > 4. i still have many friends from that list'' > > > > 5. about 80 members of that list (of about 200) were happy subscribers to > > [LORD GNOME] - > > strange for a univerally hated troll nes't pas.? anyone who wanted off > > came off immediately. no one was there who did not want to be. > > > > before i folded the list - mainly due to protracted computer problems (i > now > > have 3 computers ) only a very few were unsubbing each week and even more > > were joining. > > > > 6. many people pointed out that my card was marked when i fell out with > kim > > dyer who runs the lst (it is actually owned by muffy barcoky) > > > > 7. her henchmen (someone coined the term - not me) matually supported > her. > > > > 8. one guy evn called her the 'goddess' of the group . i mean > > > > 9. most members of the list did not even vote. i.e. they could give a > stuff > > > > 10. some people pointed out anyone who did not like my stuff could simply > > block me as could happen here > > > > 11. sylvia morris - yes that sylvia morris proposed renaming it the al > > stewart maUling list after the way i was treated. (we were friends then) > > > > 12. someone else said no mjust call it the maUling list as al stewart > would > > never want his name attacheed to it. > > > > 13. many brits after a short period due to being given a hard time > > > > 14. there is a real culture differencwe problem on that list which al's > > manager recognises as the list is very U.S biassed > > > > 15. muffy shot the list down for a period do to flame wars . this happen > > some time after i left > > > > 16. ther have been several fierce flame wars ever since the list began > > > > 17. jolayne white (one of the most respected members argued long and hard > > for me to stay and she often chivvied me to post more al reminences > > > > 18. a few people told me privately that there were some nasty people on > that > > list and i quote > > > > 19. bill kerr one of the most outspoken and highly respected members of > the > > list unsubscribed from al stewart as he could not take all the agro. he > > asked if he could join [LORD GNOME] instead - which he did > > > > 20.. does this all sound familiar? > > > > 21. mark thomas is a man of tollerance and not a bigot > > > > 22. if you really must waste your time reading the al stewart archives, at > > least do it thoroughly. several of you are posting the 'juciest' postings > > out of context and ballence. as if the rest of you are not as stupid > enough > > not to realise that > > > > ian > > > > you seem to keep unsubbing but never leave ? > with all due respect why are you still here ps who do you work for? > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: pete > > To: mt > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:14 AM > > Subject: [mt] I vote to boot him. > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > If any of you are still wondering just what Mr Gomeche is all about then > > why > > > not visit > http://www.things.org/music/al_stewart/digest_archives/v03.n1284 > > > > > > Here you will find a digest of emails from the "Al Stewart" mailing > list. > > > Some of these are from our favourite troll and follow exactly the same > > > pattern as he did here. Most people ignored him, the more sensitive > souls > > > blocked him and I would guess he probably caused more than one to unsub > > for > > > a while. > > > > > > Honestly. What are you on Ian? We'll take anyone on this list but you > > have > > > to start threatening people and phoning them up. Now why don't you make > > > like a good little troll and FUCK OFF and bother someone else. > > > > > > With extreme prejudice. > > > > > > > > > pete > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:05:43 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:05:40 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:47:49 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16950 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:47:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19474 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:48:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 28607 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:47:47 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10684 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 22:51:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6827 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:33:22 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 3473 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:19:32 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:19:32 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134WMl-000EzH-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:19:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01bfdb05$d13cb7c0$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] little things please little minds Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:21:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk j mnsh (ill can't get over the daft name) wrote: bye bye ian unssssssssssssssub are you trying to hypnotise me or contol my thoughts? i thought alpha waves from my TV screen did that or some thing [keep taking the tablets -dr. ruth] actually wasting everyones time by writing unssssssssssssssub (think i've got some more ssss than you is pretty childish really . come on admit it now,. it's just plain bitchy and pathetic really isn't it. it's not big and it's not clever. is it now? what have i ever done to you . i mean you can't help having a silly name almost as daft as wHaTeVerY2K or what ever that other fool calls himself don't worry about it ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:05:44 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:05:42 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:50:12 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17923 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:50:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19620 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:50:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 240 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:50:09 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 12019 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 22:57:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9374 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:45:51 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4633 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:23:39 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:23:39 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134WQj-000F3r-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:23:38 +0100 Message-ID: <003401bfdb06$640996e0$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] playing silly buggers Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:24:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk j xwqy nonsense name wrote: 'jusst a quiick questiooooooooon who are you???????????////// sorry a bout the spelllling ande the grammmmer' you can't resist can you llllllllllllllllloooooooooeeeeeeeewwwwwwww ah that's what happens when i hold a key down,. clever hey? [not at all - ed] is this what you you learnt in kindegarden today then? how exiting for you then! ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:05:44 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:05:41 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:48:43 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17273 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:48:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19524 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:49:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 29227 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:48:41 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10926 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 22:52:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7774 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:38:38 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5439 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:26:40 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:26:40 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134WTe-000F72-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:26:38 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01bfdb06$cfc76060$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "angel69" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055A01B4E96B@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> <001a01bfdaf7$f9991640$86d5b0c2@UKsolyug69> Subject: [mt] geoff is plotting something oh er misses! Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:28:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i think i know exactly what that child geoff is planning. he's miffed cos i reported himto demon cos he would stop sending me abusive messages like i asked hoim to be careful could backfire cDc know what i mean ? [everyone knows that one of course - ed] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:05:45 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:05:42 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:51:29 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18524 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:51:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19722 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:51:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 1096 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:51:26 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:51:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12514 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 22:59:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 10250 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:50:15 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 7048 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:34:37 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:34:37 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134WbM-000FIl-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:34:36 +0100 Message-ID: <005001bfdb07$ec672560$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] Fw: Kenjut Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:36:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk eturn-Path: Rd_Widjaya@[redacted].net X-Envelope-To: igomeche@[redacted].co.uk Received: from pandora.clara.net ([195.8.69.98] helo=pandora.uk.clara.net) by gaea.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #4) id 134W7K-0009Zm-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:03:34 +0100 Received: from claranet by pandora.uk.clara.net with local (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134W7K-0008Ln-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:03:34 +0100 Received: from [194.176.218.9] (helo=spielberg.vip.uk.com) by pandora.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134W7K-0008Lh-00 for ia@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:03:34 +0100 Received: from modem-187-9-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.9.187] helo=pan.breathemail.net) by spielberg.vip.uk.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 134W7J-0003aa-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:03:33 +0100 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000404141102.00a65f00@pophost1.breathemail.net> X-Sender: Rd_Widjaya@[redacted].net@pophost1.breathemail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:31:23 +0100 To: ia@[redacted].co.uk From: Rd_Widjaya Subject: Kenjut Cc: mark-thomas@gbnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-UIDL: 961538615.36817.nemesis.clara.net X-RCPT: igomeche Status: U ----- Original Message ----- From: Rd_Widjaya To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:31 PM Subject: Kenjut > I see you type lot of shit here. I am Inglish, but in my country, we sort > you . I see you foreign bastard from scotland. U R bad kontol > > We don't want liang bujur here, It's good you go away. > > > __________Rd_Widjaya__________ > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:05:47 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:05:44 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:52:20 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18894 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:52:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19790 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:52:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 1652 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:52:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13637 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 23:05:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11818 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 22:56:37 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 9320 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:45:35 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:45:35 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Wls-000FdX-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:45:28 +0100 Message-ID: <005801bfdb09$71237140$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] exciting new competition folks !!!!!!!! Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:46:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk win a fabulous star prize !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 today we announce a fantastic great competition !!!!!!!!!!!!!! great !!!!!!! super !!!!!! you can all take part the poster of the most pathetic boring witless flame directed at myself each week will win a fabulous star prize - an all expenses night in in holloway with JA, second prize is of course 2 nights.......... (boring old joke) so get those crappy entries in folks. so far in are good entries from SQeLcY2k (zillions of entries) j hwqp or whatever and too many other good entries to mention closing date 25th june 2000 midnight ALT (aberdeen local time hoots mon) the judge's (me and puss puss the cat) decision is final employees of ikg associates , their families and all furry rodents are not eligible to enter [yes puss puss that does mean you as well] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:06:08 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:06:00 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 00:54:04 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19544 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:54:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19916 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:54:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 2793 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:53:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:53:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 14944 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 23:10:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13717 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 23:05:22 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12076 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 22:57:46 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 22:57:46 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Wxk-000GIH-00; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:57:44 +0100 Message-ID: <008201bfdb0b$27463920$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] this person was asked formally to stop emiailing me. he refused to compy Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:59:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk Return-Path: mcsh@[redacted].co.uk X-Envelope-To: igomeche@[redacted].co.uk Received: from pandora.clara.net ([195.8.69.98] helo=pandora.uk.clara.net) by gaea.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #4) id 134WfJ-000DSy-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:38:41 +0100 Received: from claranet by pandora.uk.clara.net with local (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134WfJ-0009BU-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:38:41 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.80] (helo=tantalum) by pandora.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134WfJ-0009BO-00 for ian@ikg.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:38:41 +0100 Received: from [195.99.45.86] (helo=o) by tantalum with smtp (Exim 3.03 #16) id 134WfI-0005Ce-00 for ian@ikg.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <025601bfdb07$c0132f40$b23a073e@o> From: "j mcsh" To: "ian gomeche" References: <00e501bfdaa7$1d2327a0$c35608c3@oemcomputer> <00c001bfdafc$dd91d900$b23a073e@o> <004601bfdb07$167e6760$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: [mt] abusive and annoying emails Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:34:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-UIDL: 961540722.51772.nemesis.clara.net X-RCPT: igomeche Status: U ----- Original Message ----- From: j mcsh To: ian gomeche Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ian gomeche" > To: "j mcsh" > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 11:30 PM > Subject: Re: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > > > > J MCSH > > > > DO NOT AND I REPEAT NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN OR I WILL NOTIFY YOUR ISP > > > > IAN GOMECHE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: j mcsh > > To: ian gomeche ; mark thomas > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "ian gomeche" > > > To: "mark thomas" > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:03 PM > > > Subject: [mt] abusive and annoying emails > > > > > > > > > > oh what fun games some people are playing. > > > > > > > > one fool thinks because he is friendly with the ISP boss or whatever > > that > > > > he can play his silly games. > > > > > > > > wrong . email abuse is viewed in the web community as a serious thing > > and > > > > rightly so. > > > > > > > > odd that steve who feels so strongly about squattiing apparently > > couldn't > > > > give a monkeys about all this > > > > > > > > > > > > my ISP, one of the U.K.'s > > > > biggest and soon to grow much bigger as they are the partners with > alta > > > > vista in their new unmetered service, takes abuse incredibly seriously > > and > > > > will pressure the offender's ISP to take action if they irresposibly > > > refuse > > > > to do so themselves. > > > > > > > > jerry won't find it so funny having to go through the hassle of > > changing > > > > ISP/email address all the time. > > > > > > > > my record for getting someone kicked off was 2 hours on a saturday > > > afternoon > > > > . well done hotmail. very impressive. > > > > > > > > NOTE it is essential to ask the person in writing to stop > > communicating > > > > with you first before an ISP will normally entertain your complaint > > unless > > > > the abuse is very serious. e.g. in the case of fisheye's serious > > physical > > > > threats and the use of words like > > > > c***. > > > > > > > > if his ISP is resposible (not all are) he will be kicked off. for that > > > > > > > > any more takers? > > > > > > > nope only a sad loser > > > > ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok bye bye > how do you masturbationnnn? > if you masturbateddddddd > are you a masturbatoreeeeeeeeee > jusst askig > space > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:06:16 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:06:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 01:03:45 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23441 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:03:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA20565 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:04:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 7269 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:03:43 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:03:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18585 invoked by uid 610); 20 Jun 2000 23:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17939 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2000 23:22:25 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 17016 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2000 23:18:54 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:18:54 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.250] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134XID-000H6v-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:18:53 +0100 Message-ID: <009a01bfdb0e$1ba841a0$fa5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] martlesham Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:20:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk SqeLshY2k (did i do that right or do you capitalise different letters each time you write it?) actually seemed to ask me a sensible question . flattery will get you everywhere. or was it a wind up? can never tell with you lot, this was concerning a military base near the martlesham labs. in suffolk or norfolk . well i did go round the labs a few times as my school was not that far from there but i do not remember anything about the base. must be very small as in the RAF cadets we went flying and things at most norfolk/suffolk bases. odd i don't remember it at all . i will study the map to see if that provides any insights. BTW anyone read 'the shepheard' by frederick forsyth. anyone who knows this book will understand why i mention it here ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:06:34 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:06:26 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 01:19:22 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29343 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:19:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21594 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:19:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 12096 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:19:20 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:19:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5478 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 00:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5194 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 00:06:39 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 5185 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:06:38 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:06:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.190] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Y2P-000IGl-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:06:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bfdb14$c7a26200$be5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] spot prize !!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:08:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk fabulour star spot prize !!!!!!!!!1 the forst person to translate this drivel from j xyzq into english will win a super prize get those entries in folks 111 ' the fule rote: 'iwas going to say you set the whole but ithing up but iseen the light and really cant be arsed REAly Ca88 MCSH or mcsh sig give me a break' ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 02:06:37 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 02:06:33 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 01:31:06 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03009 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:31:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA22338 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:31:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 17452 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:31:04 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 12843 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 00:30:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12669 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 00:30:07 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 12666 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 00:30:07 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 00:30:07 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.190] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134YP8-000IVN-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:30:06 +0100 Message-ID: <004f01bfdb18$0f677640$be5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] footie twats Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:31:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk brian and kathy asked for some thoughts on footy hooligans: well i don't follow the footy much. i must the only person on the planet not watching euro 2000. so i don't have much to add here . everytime football hooligans come up i always think of macintrye undercover. i presume you have already discussed the series at lenght but i found it rivetting particularly the one on the chelsea headhunters led by jason thingy. really scarry that they are so organised and linked to combat 18. i got the macintrye undercover paperback which is also good. did anyone see the brilliant private eye spoof 'macintrye goes undercover in search of the boiled sweet?' ace. ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 03:35:28 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 03:35:40 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 02:12:36 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12157 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:12:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA24971 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:13:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 27041 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 01:12:33 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 01:12:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 22134 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 01:10:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21873 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 01:10:05 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21759 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 01:09:38 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 01:09:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.190] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134Z1N-000Iyk-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <008d01bfdb1d$948bfd00$be5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] news flash i----an gomeche has amazing special powers---- Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:11:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk associated press london 21st june 2000------- it emerged today that ian 'troll' gomeche had amazing special powers which even uri geller is unable to match. mr gomeche can apparently use special mind control forces to make seemingly normal people start up their lookout distress email program and address an email to a major domo (rtrd) of the cottages tunbridge wells. the person then feels compelled to type in the mysterious coded message unsubscribe mark-thomas. boffins at bletchley park code breaking centre hollywood u576 or whatever are working round the clock to deciper this strange message. dr alan turing of the top secret unit said 'this could take me some time to crack, particularly as i am dead having topped myself in 1952 when i was caught in a 'cottage' with a george michael.' mr gomeche refused to reveal the secret behind his amazing gift. he did however say 'it's incredible really, people have only to strike a match , strare at the flame and then they rush off and start typing madly' uri geller ruefully admitted 'bending spoons is childs play compared with this. i have never seen anything like it.' professor jesus h. chris of bethlehem universiy psychic reasearch institute said 'it would be fantastic if we could run some tests on mr gomeche to try to learn how he does it' ends +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 03:35:36 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 03:35:46 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 03:29:29 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00251 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:29:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA29611 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:29:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 1755 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 02:29:19 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 02:29:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 27161 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 02:27:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 26679 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 02:25:56 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 26359 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 02:24:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 02:24:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.190] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134aC9-000Jg9-00; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: <014201bfdb28$1597ade0$be5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: Cc: , "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] mike bayliss is still sending unwanted abuse and now libelling me Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:26:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk bayliss is now libelling me re a spurious complaint by a syvia morris against me which clara investigated fully at the time. the concluded that i had no case to answer and that morris's complaints were spurious. i beleieve that they wrote to her asking her to stop wasting vast amounts of their time. the man is getting dangerously out of control now. i will have to take legal action the police never received any complaints from her although i warned them to expect them. i have repeatedly warned bayliss to stop emailing me . he is treating this all as a big childish joke. he is blatently ignoring my request.i have told him repeadly that i will be forced to sue him for libel i will talk to my local p[olice about him tomorrow as he is clearly now in breech of the telecommunicaions act 1984 and other acts please take action against him yourselves regards ian gomeche woithout prejudice Return-Path: mejb@[redacted].com X-Envelope-To: igomeche@[redacted].co.uk Received: from pandora.clara.net ([195.8.69.98] helo=pandora.uk.clara.net) by nemesis.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 134ZuP-00060z-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 Received: from claranet by pandora.uk.clara.net with local (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134ZuP-000DeC-00 for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 Received: from [212.67.128.108] (helo=bart.callnet0800.com) by pandora.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) id 134ZuP-000De6-00 for ian@ikg.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com [212.67.128.5] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A356FA005A; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:07:18 +0100 Received: from mick [212.67.130.34] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3203AC0056; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:24 +0100 Message-ID: <00dc01bfdb25$63e52de0$228243d4@mick> From: "mike bayliss" To: "ian gomeche" , Subject: ian gomeche Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-UIDL: 961553190.23132.nemesis.clara.net X-RCPT: igomeche Status: U ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bayliss To: ian gomeche ; Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:06 AM Subject: ian gomeche > with ref P L E A S E put a stop to this guy apparently he is > something called a flamer? goes to a newsgroup or similar causes havoc > behind a legal shield then departs, from my searches and his own admittance > he has already been interviewed by his local POLICE, after electronically > stalking women on the al stewert community > > regards > mike bayliss > mejb@[redacted].com > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 04:29:05 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Jun 21 04:29:06 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 04:09:30 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07172 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:09:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA31913 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:09:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 5054 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 03:09:25 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 03:09:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 372 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 03:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29885 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 03:07:11 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 29795 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 03:06:49 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 03:06:49 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.190] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134aql-000K5u-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:06:47 +0100 Message-ID: <015001bfdb2d$f27924a0$be5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] mike bayliss is still sending unwanted abuse and now libelling me Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:08:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk > xxxxxxx > > take a lok at this please. bayliss posted this to mark thomas list. he has > cleraly libelled me and has breeched the telecoms acts as he continues to > mail me directly even though i have repeated asked him to stop. if > callnetuk.com do not kick him off i will complain about them to ISPA as they > probably are members. i warned him this would happen and i even explained > the libel laws to him. he will have to prove that his allegations of > cyberstalking are true. these is loads of doccumented evidence showing they > are not. > > when the criminal and civil cases go to court ,the mark thomas list will be > dragged thriugh the courts. that will really make bayliss popular. mark's > managent who spoke to me today about another criminal case involving a fish > where charges will probably be preferred are already getting very concerned. > indeed his management actually phoned me today while the police were here > getting an educaion about email headers, abusive threats -they could > understand that bit perfectly o.k. IP addresses etc. sgt chalmers wants me > to help him configure the machine he is building. i told the boys in blue > about the forensic computer service i ams setting up with my private > investigator friend who is ex met.. they say that they will bear that in > mind next time they need some work of this nature carrying out. > > my position on this list may now be untenable , not as a result of all the > stupid flame which no one is interested in (ISP's have no time to waste > bothering with flame wars on a list as anyone who subscribes has done so by > choice and therefore accepts that they will get mail from any posters on the > list. > > to repeat, my compaints (excluding the libel) are concerning private posts > from bayliss to me)# > > my position will be probably be untenable as i will probably be the litigant > in a libel case agsainst bayliss and the list owners. also there is probably > criminal charges forthcoming against anotherperson who was a list member. > > wow what a mess. > > where shall i buy my villa? corfu i think? i may end up loving bayliss after > all! > > without prejudice > > ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ian gomeche > To: > Cc: ; mark thomas > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:26 AM > Subject: [mt] mike bayliss is still sending unwanted abuse and now libelling > me > > > > bayliss is now libelling me re a spurious complaint by a syvia morris > > against me which clara investigated fully at the time. the concluded that > i > > had no case to answer and that morris's complaints were spurious. i > beleieve > > that they wrote to her asking her to stop wasting vast amounts of their > > time. the man is getting dangerously out of control now. i will have to > take > > legal action > > the police never received any complaints from her although i warned them > to > > expect them. > > i have repeatedly warned bayliss to stop emailing me . he is treating this > > all as a big childish joke. he is blatently ignoring my request.i have > told > > him repeadly that i will be forced to sue him for libel > > i will talk to my local p[olice about him tomorrow as he is clearly now in > > breech of the telecommunicaions act 1984 and other acts > > > > please take action against him yourselves > > > > regards > > > > ian gomeche > > > > woithout prejudice > > > > Return-Path: mejb@[redacted].com > > X-Envelope-To: igomeche@[redacted].co.uk > > Received: from pandora.clara.net ([195.8.69.98] helo=pandora.uk.clara.net) > > by nemesis.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) > > id 134ZuP-00060z-00 > > for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 > > Received: from claranet by pandora.uk.clara.net with local (Exim 3.03 #6) > > id 134ZuP-000DeC-00 > > for igomeche@[redacted].co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 > > Received: from [212.67.128.108] (helo=bart.callnet0800.com) > > by pandora.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) > > id 134ZuP-000De6-00 > > for ian@ikg.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:29 +0100 > > Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com [212.67.128.5] by bart.callnet0800.com > > with ESMTP > > (SMTPD32-5.05) id A356FA005A; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:07:18 +0100 > > Received: from mick [212.67.130.34] by smtp.callnetuk.com > > (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3203AC0056; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:24 +0100 > > Message-ID: <00dc01bfdb25$63e52de0$228243d4@mick> > > From: "mike bayliss" > > To: "ian gomeche" , > > > > Subject: ian gomeche > > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:06:57 +0100 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Priority: 3 > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > X-UIDL: 961553190.23132.nemesis.clara.net > > X-RCPT: igomeche > > Status: U > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mike bayliss > > To: ian gomeche ; > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:06 AM > > Subject: ian gomeche > > > > > > > with ref P L E A S E put a stop to this guy apparently he is > > > something called a flamer? goes to a newsgroup or similar causes havoc > > > behind a legal shield then departs, from my searches and his own > > admittance > > > he has already been interviewed by his local POLICE, after > electronically > > > stalking women on the al stewert community > > > > > > regards > > > mike bayliss > > > mejb@[redacted].com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 02:52:45 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 02:52:42 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 19:18:58 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22447 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:18:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13527 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:19:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 18344 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 18:18:52 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:18:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 23031 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 18:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22842 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 18:17:52 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 22839 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 18:17:52 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:17:52 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.159] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134p4Q-000FyL-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:17:51 +0100 Message-ID: <010a01bfdbad$38523500$9f5908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] sicko Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:19:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Bonobo Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [mt] news story > i sent you a civil email end you reply 'i hope you die in a car crah' and > start going on about cutting brake pipes. this is definitely going in my > next story and i might give this to the police. > > you're sick > > a copy of your email has gone to your ISP. they will definitely close your > account for this > > i have a sense of humour as i think many of my postings show. > > time to reopen the files on you. which i had hoped to keep closed > > > ian gomeche > > without prejudice > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bonobo > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:20 AM > Subject: Re: [mt] Accusations, threats and annoyances > > > > I am REPLYING to a message that you sent me. YOU began the > communication > > i am only responding to it. I am also doing this on a public list. > > > > > quite the little innocent aren't we (not) you know exactly what you were > > > doing winding me up > > > > Yes, it is what is called a JOKE. Mark Thomas often involves himself in > > such activities. We are on a Mark Thomas mailing list, i think it is > quite > > acceptable for me to partake in an activity the list's namesake enjoys so > > much > > > > > so don't play the injured schoolkid routine now. you enjoyed your game . > > not > > > so funny if you > > > lose your account. if you can't take the heat etc etc > > > > Lose me my account for what? Having HARMLESS fun with someone. You > must > > really find it hard living in a world where jokes and humour exists. > > If YOU can't take the heat without over-reacting, then why don't YOU > leave > > the list? I CAN take the heat from my acts, but if they are taken out of > > proportion then i am perfectly liable to be offended > > > > I have not once threatened you and i will continue to refrain from it > > because it is POINTLESS. I haven't performed an internet search on your > > name and i haven't used it against you in any personal, malicious attack. > > Isn't it soooo strange that when someone does it to you, you can't take it > > and threaten to have their account closed, but you find it perfectly > > acceptable to do it to others who had never even considered doing the same > > to you. > > I think you are a hypocritical, petty, idiot who has absolutely no sense > of > > civility or humour, i hope you die in a car crash. (This is not a threat, > > from what i have gathered you live in Scotland and i live in London so it > is > > quite hard for me to get up there, i also know othing about engineering, > so > > cutting your brake cable is out of the question.) > > > > lots of love, > > Bonobo > > :o) > > > > Ps. I also request that you cease ALL attempts to communicate with me. > You > > are now on my block list and will stay there for the forseeable future. > > You are a c***, so f*** off and d** a horrible d**** > > Tatty Bye Bye Ianypoos > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 02:52:49 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 02:52:47 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 20:29:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19421 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:29:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20314 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:29:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 25460 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 19:29:25 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 1153 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 19:28:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 965 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 19:27:47 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 962 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 19:27:47 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:27:47 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.29] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134qA6-000HQJ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:27:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bfdbb6$fc687c20$1d5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] mike bayliss and ISP's Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:29:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk it seems that mike bayliss is now trying to stir things up with the guys on the mirror. it is true matt does not know me that well as i have generally dealt with shiraz. ,his sidekick, who originally set the column up. and who has taken stuff from me i have been in contact about matt about bayliss i have had discussions with mike thomas' management who have asked me to send them further info about the list. i will tell them about bayliss' latest exploits. they already know i am planning to sue bayliss and the list owners. they know that the police have been involved regarding the fish and now possibly bonobo as well. if they DO decide to shut the list down it will be as a direct result of the actions of bayliss, the fish and several others. some of you have only yourselves to blame for the consequences of your outrageous actions. posting private stuff and stuff from other archives containing sensitive info about other members to the list as bayliss,julie-ann and others have done is a gross breech of netiquette. think some you should think where your vindictive actions are likely to lead. dragging the list through the criminal and civil courts is probably not the brightest of ideas i had a long chat with mick at clara about the barrage of complains against me . i have been asked not to comment about what they plan to do about them. let's just say they waste a lot of time dealing with spurious complaints and are fed up with it. as a responsible ISP they feel they have to investigate each complaint. this is extremely time consuming. for example they had 100 pages of complains about me from sylvia morris and a few others on the al stewart list. after they had spent several hours investigating they decided that i had NOT breeched their AUP . instead they wrote to the ISP's of the complainers without prejudice ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 02:52:50 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 02:52:49 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 20:43:52 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24806 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:43:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21434 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:44:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 27838 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 19:43:50 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3659 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 19:43:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3473 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 19:42:49 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 3470 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 19:42:49 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:42:49 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.29] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134qOe-000I7t-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:42:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bfdbb9$162947a0$1d5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] mark bayliss 2 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:44:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i ahve already offered my julie-ann story to some papers who are extremely interested. i did not offer it to the mirror as other papers are more suitable for this kind of story however now that bayliss has chosen to involve the mirror , i would not be at all surprised if they decide to 'take a look' once i complained about how a local shop was encouraging our local hooligaism problem. one local paper photographed me standing outside the shop. the shop owner phoned another larger paper to compain about their reporter 'trespassing' they , of course ,knew nothing about all this but promptly sent their reporter down to see what this was all about. when they in turn photographed me outside the shop it would have been great if the owner had complained to yet another paper. unfortunately she did not ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 02:53:08 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 02:53:06 2000) X-From_: daemon Wed Jun 21 22:09:57 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25121 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:09:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28603 for <[redacted]>; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:10:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 18478 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 21:09:45 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 21:09:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 21389 invoked by uid 610); 21 Jun 2000 20:49:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 16325 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2000 20:30:55 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 14997 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 20:26:36 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 20:26:36 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.29] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134r50-000Jvk-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:26:34 +0100 Message-ID: <00bc01bfdbbf$329f4b40$1d5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: Fw: [mt] mail overload Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:28:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: ian gomeche To: Challender, David Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [mt] mail overload > i will repeat .i did not start any flaming. you people seem totally > incapable of accepting that. i merely respond to flame some of which is > extremely nasty. somehow the logic says gomeche is posting a lot of heavy > stuff.he must be a troll/ agent provocateur/ flamer etc. i have repeatedly > asked for flame to be kept off list and they have refused . i even asked > them to show consideration for the other members.not a chance look at what > is really going on , not what you want to see > ig > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Challender, David > To: mark-thomas > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:45 PM > Subject: [mt] mail overload > > > > [Apols for commenting on this issue, have been away for a few days & was > > rather staggered by my inbox on return] > > > > > > ikg said: > > "email abuse is viewed in the web community as a serious thing and > > rightly so." > > > > Indeed, most mailing list subscribers regard excessive numbers of postings > > from a person, about subjects they have repeatedly being requested to take > > off list as email abuse. > > Many people have requested ikg take the (widely regarded as > unconstructive) > > emails off list. > > They also said (magnanimously IMHO, instead of just getting him unsubbed) > to > > feel free to email things that may be of interest to the wider list, > ("flame > > wars" stuff does not come into this category). > > The Mark Thomas list is moderately large, so a lot of bandwidth is used > for > > each mail to the list, fair enough, but when the consensus is that those > > mails are unwanted then we have ikg wasting a lot of bandwidth mainly for > > his own pleasure. Has he no concern for those who > > > > I was personally very irritated, upon returning to this country after a > few > > hard days of work abroad over the weekend & last few days to find my inbox > > bulging with an excessive number of pointless emails emanating from ikg. > > There I was, hoping to catch up on what had been happening at home in > areas > > of interest to me (e.g. uncle Jack announcing new infringements of human > > rights in a knee jerk reaction to Euro 2000 violence, Anne Widderrshins > > making not overly Christian comments in relation to dead illegal > immigrants > > etc, etc.) instead I get masses of stuff from ikg, not related to the > > interests of the majority of list members, the usual interesting mails > > greatly reduced because so many people have been offended by the behaviour > > of ikg and this got involved in that topic instead. > > BTW, Paul had absolutely full work related schedule so no chance for a > > German mini list meet, so did not even bother mentioning the visit > earlier. > > > > So, I would also like to request that ikg takes his troll/ flame stuff off > > list (but feels free to post , I would like an inbox full of mail I like > to > > read > > > > "I am going to get you for saying something nasty" legal threats are > totally > > against the whole concept of freedom of speech, which is surely one of the > > main > > as ikg seems to love name dropping so much & claims to bas offensive, > > reminds me of the little school kid approach of "I'm getting my big > brother > > / mate/ Dad etc. etc onto you 'cos you made me cry" type of behaviour. A > > very excessive form of over-reaction IMHO. Deliberately offending people > (& > > very carefully worded) to get an angry response & then (paraphrase) "I can > > use that response to get your ISP to cut you off" (when the response, > IMHO, > > was purely the result of extreme provocation). A bit like a stranger > > repeatedly abusing you in the street (but carefully avoiding direct > > obscenities etc.) and then trying to get you arrested for use of offensive > > language when you irritably reply with a few expletives. > > Looking at this from an "observers" point of view (as I did not see the > > events unfold "real time" but read a huge amount of digest mails instead), > I > > believe many people would interpret ikg behaviour as that of a typical > agent > > provocateur. > > ikg seems not to believe in free speech, so why is he subbed to this sort > of > > list? > > > > I will miss mails from JA, Fisheye (& whoever else has also unsubbed > > recently, still wading thru a huge mail backlog makes it hard to keep > > track). I hope they resub as I am sad they feel they have been driven away > > by the behaviour of ikg. > > > > I will not miss the flame mails of ikg, if ikg really feels he wants to > > contribute to the list he should send mails written in a more pleasant, > > mature manner and post mails not full of legal warnings, insults etc. > (that > > sound as if they were written by a petulant, spoilt child) or unsub if the > > required behaviour change is not possible. > > > > I have no objections to stuff like the comments on Jack Straw at uni - > stuff > > like that is fine, no insults, flames etc. (though I doubt Jack was as > much > > genuinely left wing as saying stuff that he felt would further his career > at > > the time - NUS high up posts known as springboards into politics & > > journalism, the generally accepted view being that most people (with a few > > honourable exceptions) go into quest for NUS posts for self aggrandisement > > rather than to improve the lot of their fellow students.) > > > > So, if ikg is reading this, please consider this a formal request to > either > > unsub or start behaving like a mature adult. > > Or even invite everyone up to Newton Hill for a wee dram and a head to > head > > chat instead of throwing around legal action emails. > > > > This is my first (& hopefully last) comment on the subject, yet again > apols > > to all the regular listers for inflicting yet another ikg based mail on > you. > > > > Dave (missing out on a proper lunchbreak to check vast amounts of > > accumulated emails, a huge amount from ikg). > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > > |Should you have any queries contact | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 02:53:29 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 02:53:28 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 02:35:40 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08856 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:35:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA14847 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:36:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 14551 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 01:35:38 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 01:35:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25062 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 01:35:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24895 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 01:34:40 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 24892 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 01:34:40 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 01:34:40 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.188] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134vt9-000PoA-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:34:39 +0100 Message-ID: <00a301bfdbea$3acff280$dd5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] a fule writes Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:36:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk the fool bayliss wrote: 'i've just pushed the reply button, so ie i'm responding to you ,as i've done before, ive sent no unsolicited mails to you so, as i've said before your a tosser a sad individual. go on go for it try anything you like, walk the walk, dont just talk the talk you tosser' don't know who that is intended to fool certainly not me nor i expect your ISP where your email has now been sent. doesn't really matter which button you press . the fact is that you are sending me abusive private mail when i have repeadly asked you not to. still have it your own way? what will you bet me that you do not lose your account? name your figure. i never bet unless i am pretty certain of winning ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 05:22:56 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 05:23:25 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 04:04:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25900 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:04:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA20002 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:04:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 21641 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 03:04:29 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 03:04:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 2410 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 03:04:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2230 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 03:03:31 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 2227 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 03:03:30 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 03:03:30 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.188] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 134xH7-0000io-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:03:30 +0100 Message-ID: <00eb01bfdbf6$9e9d2600$dd5408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] mike bayliss Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:04:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk it seems that mike bayliss is making a career of trying to stir up trouble for me and building up scandal where there is none. i expect a reply from matt kelly tomorrow shedding some light on what bayliss wrote to him. perhaps i can tack that on to the libel case. i mean telling porkies about someone to a major national newspaper. should be intersting/ as i said bayliss's exploits have been brought to the attention if mark thomas's management who are extremely concerned. if they shut this list down which is a distinct possibility i kid you not , then bayliss will have been significantly to blame. so decide amongst yourselves. do you continue to let bayliss jepodize your wonderful list or do you do something about it? up to you. where does he get time for all this?. what sort of job does he do?. how much is it costing him in time and effort.?he certainly does not work in computers as he has only just figured out how to stop posting in HTML and the stuff he sent my ISP had no header info therefore was completely worthless as evidence of anything. bayliss's statements and actions clearly show he is not too bright although he thinks you will all be incredibly impressed with his endeavours to get your list shut. the man is a foolish waste of space. ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 14:28:41 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Thu Jun 22 14:28:46 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 14:13:02 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23174 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:12:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02859 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:13:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 15122 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 13:12:52 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 13:12:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 29892 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 13:11:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29685 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 13:10:21 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 29682 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 13:10:21 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 13:10:21 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1356kC-000FGp-00; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:10:08 +0100 Message-ID: <019201bfdc4b$659cdc60$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "bex" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <4.3.1.20000621233451.00ae8100@pop3.ukonline.co.uk> Subject: Re: [mt] jack straws castle (used to drink there)( Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:11:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk can't remember if straw had any views on hash but he was certainly involved in things like grovsner square (or however you spell it). at the time there was a big thing that universities were supposed to have political files on left wing students which were disclosed to prospective employers. there were a lot of sit ins in the university admin offices while students searched for these secret files. can't remember if any were actually found. these sit ins were led by essex and LSE which were radical hotbeds at that time.. many universities joined in . we occupied senate house at bristol univ for a few days . drunk all their coffee but did not find any secret files. straw was definitely involved in all this along with tariq ali ian PS just off on my harley to a meeting of the aberdeen chapter of trolls angels ----- Original Message ----- From: bex To: ian gomeche ; mark thomas Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [mt] jack straws castle (used to drink there)( > At 13:21 20/06/00 +0100, ian gomeche wrote: > >mike richards wrote: > > > >Think about it, Jack Straw's slogan uses the word 'tolerant' - you couldn't > >make it up could you?' > > > >when i was at univ a zillion years ago (or so it seems) we had a right > >little lefty scourge of the establishment trot called jack straw who was > >leader of the NUS > > didn't he denounce cannabis way back then? (student, sixties, ominous) > > bex > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:27:38 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:27:37 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 16:18:57 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07928 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:18:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15470 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:19:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 17747 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 15:18:54 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 15:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23528 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 14:33:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20218 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 14:20:17 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 18480 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 14:14:48 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 14:14:48 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1357kh-000I97-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: <01f301bfdc54$6b27d780$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] referee Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:16:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk to the flamers demon have just shown geoff a yellow card telling him not to email me privately again or else. i expect bayliss and bonobo to be shown red cards by their ISP's mark thomas's management are now utterly sick to the back teeth of this list. i spoke to them yet again this morning. carry on giving me grief all over the planet and i guarantee you it will come back in your faces as it is already doing SHAC say they will not listen to you so don't waste their time either. they have a campaign to run. why don't some of you use your time more constructively . you are just a bunch of childish armchair activists some of you are trying to get me to drop the complaint to the police against the fish person. the more this goes on, the more i am unlikely to do so. comprende? o.k. children cary on playing ian - your not so friendly troll. without prejudice +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:27:56 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:27:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 17:41:31 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27336 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:41:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23926 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:41:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 10407 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:41:24 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:41:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24714 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 16:16:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 22612 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 16:07:24 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 20948 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:00:58 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:00:58 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1359PV-000MOZ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:00:57 +0100 Message-ID: <030001bfdc63$419acbc0$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] mark thomas's comment about the list Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:02:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i have just received this (amongst other stuff) from mark's management company: 'We have now had a chance to speak to Mark, who has completely disassociated himself from the List' ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:27:58 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:27:56 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 17:43:03 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28000 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:43:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA24083 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:43:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 11455 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:42:58 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25256 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 16:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23409 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 16:11:14 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21971 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:04:19 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:04:19 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1359Sj-000MZH-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:04:18 +0100 Message-ID: <030601bfdc63$b8f68560$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] bayliss Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:05:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i have just had a long chat with the operations manager at callnet (bayliss's ISP) red card time for bayliss. he also set me up with free trials of their various services. ian who's next then ? +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:27:59 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:27:58 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 17:44:40 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28724 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:44:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA24254 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:45:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 12614 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:44:38 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:44:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25971 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 16:20:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24218 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 16:14:54 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 22682 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:07:43 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:07:43 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1359W2-000Mif-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:07:43 +0100 Message-ID: <030c01bfdc64$3314ba60$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] more red cards than vinney jones Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:09:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk just spoke to support manager at bonobo's ISP (who i know ,as it happens) yes it's another red card folks. i must remember to tell the police about 'the break pipes' bit ig +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:28:06 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:28:07 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 18:19:57 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15629 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:19:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27641 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:20:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 23164 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:19:51 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:19:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8114 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 17:03:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 6973 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 16:58:07 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4690 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 16:49:28 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 16:49:28 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135AAR-000ONn-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:49:27 +0100 Message-ID: <033601bfdc6a$061a6360$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] barrack room law Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:50:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk lot of barrack room lawyers on this list here is something from mr looy another one: "Assault is a crime of attempt, the purpose of the law being to deter a possible battery by punishing conduct that comes dangerously close to achieving a battery. As with most crimes of attempt, a clear line cannot be drawn between a criminal assault and conduct that is merely preparatory to an assault. There must be an intent to harm, but the intent is not sufficient if it produces the mere possibility of harm or the threat of battery in the distant future. Rather, the intent must be evidenced by an imminent danger, some overt act that threatens battery. Thus, words or intentions alone do not constitute assault." yes well i believe you. !only one small problem though. as i explained to rochelle cavenaugh q.c. i live in a little place called scotland where we have different laws. the key things is, did it place the complainant into 'a state of fear and alarm'? what a quaint expression. i contend that the fishes missive did indeed. that was good enough for the boys in blue. yes i know he lives in reading or whevever but i was placed in a state of fear and alarm right here in scotland of course the procreator fiscal (our equivalent of the cps) may throw it out but then he might not. probably be a breech of the peace (they are keen on those here) - max sentence 2 years ian without prejudice +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:28:09 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:28:10 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 18:20:59 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16056 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:20:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27744 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:21:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 23867 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:20:56 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 8967 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 17:06:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 8397 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 17:04:29 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:02:35 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:02:35 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135AN8-000OtD-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:02:34 +0100 Message-ID: <037401bfdc6b$db034820$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] yet another red card ! golly !!!! Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:03:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk rd_widjaya@[redacted].net is the latest person on this list to receive the red card from their ISP. that's 3 red and 1 yellow so far today . must be a record. i'll offer my services to the F.A. more to follow watch this space ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:28:17 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:28:18 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 18:45:45 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27156 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:45:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30296 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:46:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 1897 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:45:39 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:45:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21919 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 17:45:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21725 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 17:44:39 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21720 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:44:38 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:44:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.84.82] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135B1p-0000H9-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:44:37 +0100 Message-ID: <03d501bfdc71$b8e82520$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" References: <030601bfdc63$b8f68560$525408c3@oemcomputer> Subject: [mt] a naieve reader asks? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:45:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk >harry wrote naievely (intentionally or not): > I'm curious, Ian. What's in it for you? You must realise how > irritating this all is for the majority of the List (who without > privately conferring AFAIK seem to have formed a virtually > homogeneous opinion of you - I'm willing to be corrected if anyone > thinks that's not the case). > > Why do you think the x100 subscribers would be interested in this > egotistical bravado, email after email? What sort of opinion do you > imagine you're engendering? That you're some kind of heroic avenging > angel, cleansing the internet of its dark side? > > You joined a well-formed List, as many do every month. Only whereas > virtually every other new member susses out the group dynamics before > gingerly jumping on board (just as it would be for joining a new > office, or a new social group dahn the pub), you seem to have moved > incredibly quickly to a situation where you threaten to destroy the > List itself unless it chooses to endorse your opinions. now that's not correct is it? [what has the truth got to with anything on this list - ed] i have no problem at all with people disagreeing with my opinions. i like a healthy debate. what i do not like is receiving gallons of private hate mail. who does? you people seem to think that because you decided that i was a nasty troll or whatever you have some great right to fill my mailbox with this foul stuff. it is my perogative to ask anyone i like to not send me any more private mail. many of you happily flount this and then send me even more. i then complain to the ISP's who have started to take action some you have the naieve view that email does not count somehow. it may have been like that in the early days but now normal laws apply to email as much as any other written medium. this included criminal law (fish finger) or civil law (bayliss). actually my local coppers are currently trying to decide if bayliss has broken criminal law as well. if you don't want to risk losing your accounts then the answer is simple. stop emailing me when i ask you to. this has got nothing to do with your list itself, it's power structures etc etc which i could not give a stuff about this is about private mail to me. got it? [not a hope -ed] to repeat (i know you have difficulty computing this) i am not trying to destroy your precious list you don't need my help . you are doing a brilliant job yourself. i keep posting stuff on all this in the hope that some of the brighter one's here (no hope for bayliss i'm afraid) start to get the message. i have work to do. i have had enough of this nonsense playtime is over back on your heads (old joke) ian without prejudice +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:28:48 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:28:48 2000) X-From_: daemon Thu Jun 22 21:58:04 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08025 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:58:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14534 for <[redacted]>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:58:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 26845 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 20:58:02 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 20:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19336 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 20:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19151 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 19148 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 20:56:59 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.122] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135E1y-0007Ya-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:56:58 +0100 Message-ID: <060a01bfdc8c$90b55bc0$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] the squirrel Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:58:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i am sending this on-list for reasons that will immediately become clear. the squirrel has sent me 4 private emails this evening . nothing wrong with that , after all they were polite and totally flame free several times she begged me to reply. however i can not as today she sent a massive complaint( 'she's complaining about everything under the sun' unquote) to clara about me. they have rejected her complaint pointing out it is hard for them to sdo omething about one of their clients emailing her when at the same time she is mailing that client goading him into replying. clara have told me not to write to her again as they believe she is trying to entrap me . they say if she writes to them saying that it is o.k. for me to write to her then then will have that to pull out if she complains again. mick , the ops manager at clara thought this was all truly bizarre bit tricky playing henry kissenger when one of the parties can't communicate with you cos you complained about them. no nobel peace prize for a squirrel then funny old world ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:29:22 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:29:23 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 00:29:42 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26226 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:29:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA26189 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:30:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 27446 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:29:35 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:29:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 21447 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 23:29:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21265 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 23:28:38 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 21262 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:28:38 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:28:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.122] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135GOj-000CT7-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:28:37 +0100 Message-ID: <080b01bfdca1$b25c44e0$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] the squirrel and harry mt etc Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:29:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk well the squirrel just phoned .(so who gave her my number then ?- actually i know) we spoke for over an hour . all very pally pally. i like her. [wedding bells next? - ed] [lets not be premature about this - ian] soooo we are mates again (for the moment -TIC) geoff has been trying to stir things up again. now i don't know who you spoke to at demon geoff but i can guarrantee not as senior as who i spoke to. wait a minute, i have an email from them saving you were getting a yellow card. have you not had one yet? i feel robbed.will correct this tomorrow. harry sent a great long boring email trying to rip me apart again. when i complained about all the flame i was getting privately , he wrote: I have seen precious little evidence of these "gallons". i would hope you would not have done unless you hacked into the clara mail server.(note the word private) no -he man's a fool. what else? spoke to rochelle for the third time today? intereting talk. bit naieve. knows little about the law for a laywer next mark (sic) my words ,bayliss will lose his account . he is awfully quiet tonight. perhaps it has happened already. bonobo will definily lose his . my pal mick has said he has already done so. although bonobo is currently sitting in the mud at glastonbury.(why does OE start collapsing in words in lines occassionally . note spelling of word definitely. it won' let me correct that without collapsing in and losing more letters.) in my hippy dippy days as college, we used to sit in the tower on the tor (with no bloody roof) tripping our heads off all night those were the daze. wow the colours man far out now its bloody oasis (perhaps) what is the world coming to. bristol is not far from glastonbury so we used to go there all the time.all the cafes in glastonbury 'had no hippies served signs' so getting food and coffe was tricky lots of incomings from plucker whom i quite like (hard to believe but i do actually like some you.) let's see what the fule rote ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:29:26 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:29:26 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 00:43:10 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01489 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:43:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA27127 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:43:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 29322 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:43:08 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23404 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 23:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23225 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 23:42:10 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 23221 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:42:09 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:42:09 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.122] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135Gbp-000CzE-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:42:09 +0100 Message-ID: <082701bfdca3$94777560$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] pluck a duck Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:42:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i take back what i said about liking pluck-a -duck. the man is trying to stir up the shit again about me. what is the f***ing point in having a survey of how many people i have asked to stop sending me private mail? what business is it of yours. if you had asked me nicely i would have gone through and tried to count. from memory i would say about 8 or 9 if you must know. so what. i don't have a quota. could be a few more tomorrow. i do not like some of you and don't want your mail. several of you dont like me. well f***ing block me then except you want to see my stuff so you have somrthing to flame me about. you know i'm right? don't you? sorry pluck-stirrer but i've gone right off you. anyway i'm now in love with a red squirrel (after all vice is nice but bestiality is best) [should be incest is best . you're fired - ed] ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:29:27 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:29:28 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 00:56:13 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06487 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:56:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA27968 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:56:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 134 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:56:11 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:56:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24221 invoked by uid 610); 22 Jun 2000 23:55:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 24055 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2000 23:55:14 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 24052 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 23:55:14 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 23:55:14 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.122] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135GoS-000DI3-00; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:55:13 +0100 Message-ID: <083d01bfdca5$65d5fae0$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "Aidan Warner" Cc: "mark thomas" References: <080b01bfdca1$b25c44e0$525408c3@oemcomputer> <3952A4FE2C6.BE76AIDAN@[redacted].screaming.net> Subject: Re: [mt] pink floyd Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:55:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk glad we got that right. i saw the world premier of atom heart mother complete with cannon fire at 2 a.m. in a cold wet field with 400,000 other people at the bath festival in 1970. top that you festival goers i should have gone to IOW to see jimi's last appearance later that same year. very inconsiderate of him to die like that ian (my festival is bigger than yours) troll aidan wrote: > No; bloody Oasis are being inflicted on the otherwise > best-festival-lineup that is Leeds/Reading. > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 01:54:57 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 01:55:02 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 01:27:21 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16487 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:27:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA30072 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:27:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 3436 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 00:27:20 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 00:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27692 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 00:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27518 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 00:26:17 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 27515 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 00:26:17 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 00:26:17 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.122] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135HIW-000Dfa-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:26:16 +0100 Message-ID: <087d01bfdca9$b9f52de0$525408c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] terms Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:26:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk rachel carthy wrote Worth a go, yes, though I'm not sure it's possible. Given that there seems a good chance (based on previous performance) that it'll only take one person out of the hundred-odd here making a sarcastic, sardonic or critical remark to set Ian off again and then we're right back where we started. What are the suggested terms then but the archive says different. loads and loads of vindictive and nasty flame has been pouring onto this list and into my private mailbox. people have been hassling SHAC, my ISP -(get it into your heads you can't unless you ask me to stop mailing you PRIVATELY and i continue. this has not happened in a single case) ,the daily mirror, geoff atkinson etc etc hardly just a single sarky comment . what planet have you been on these last few days.? you surely have seen all this stuff or do you still think i brainwashed the flamers to generate it by the bucket load.? terms are simple. if i ask you to stop mailing me privately and you continue i will get your accounts terminated . generally i ask this only if you are sending me private flame. which i don't F***ING want. if you flame me on list not much i can do about it really unless you libel me like bayliss in which case i phone my lawyers. bear in mind that if you flame me on list too much everyone else will find you really boring. as i never start flame wars i don't have take any special action hope that's clear ian terminator 3 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 06:17:34 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 06:18:25 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 02:46:25 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01624 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:46:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02423 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:46:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 11921 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 01:46:23 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 01:46:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 6297 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 01:46:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6121 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 01:45:26 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 6118 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 01:45:26 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 01:45:26 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.238] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135IX7-000EUp-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:45:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bfdcb4$be69ec20$ee5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] moody blues Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:45:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk this man moody really is an idiotic fule .how can my case against bonobo and geoff have fallen apart when geoff has got/or is getting a yellow card and bonobo has already had his account terminated.? the police took what i had to say seriously and i think they know more about the law than you (which is bugger all.) breaching the telecoms act 1984 (which i have read, have you -thought not) is a criminal offence. i have already told you the police are seeing if bayliss has broken it. fisheye 's case ,which i can't really discuss any more as it is is sort of 'sub jude' is more clear cut from the criminal side although i do not know if he has been charged yet. . remember i went on about 'state of fear and alarm'? obviously not. i have a good chance in winning a libel case against bayliss and the list owners. but ,of course ,you know better. i wrote 'hope that is clear' moody wrote 'clear as mud' o.k. so you are not very bright. don't worry about it. why do i waste my time answering this tripe? ian ----- Original Message ----- From: F.J.Moody To: Mark Thomas Mailing List Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 1:55 AM Subject: RE: [mt] terms > On Fri, Jun 23, 2000, at 01:26 AM, ian gomeche wrote: > > > but the archive says different. loads and loads of vindictive and nasty > > flame has been pouring onto this list and into my private mailbox. people > > have been hassling SHAC, my ISP -(get it into your heads you can't unless > > you ask me to stop mailing you PRIVATELY and i continue. this has not > > happened in a single case) ,the daily mirror, geoff atkinson etc etc > > And so your case against Geoff and Bonobo falls apart, by your own > admission, thank you. > > > if you flame me on list not much i can do about it really unless you libel > > me like bayliss in which case i phone my lawyers. > > Right I'm not a lawyer, but Libel would be a civil case wouldn't it, > so why have you been talking to the police ? They have no interest in civil > cases. And the chances of winning a civil case with what evidence you have > is slim in the very least, but I suppose its your money and you can spend > it however you want ! > > > as i never start flame wars i don't have take any special action > > :-) > > > hope that's clear > > Clear as mud. > > > ian terminator 3 > > Fred "Blade 2" > > /// F.J.Moody E-Mail - Fred@venom8.demon.co.uk > \\\/// > \XX/ If we are what we eat, then I'm cheap, fast, and easy. > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 06:17:35 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 06:18:26 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 02:52:14 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04513 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:52:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02741 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:52:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 12318 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 01:52:13 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 01:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 6696 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 01:51:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 6516 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 01:51:18 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 6513 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 01:51:17 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 01:51:17 -0000 Received: from [195.8.86.238] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135Icm-000EYx-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:51:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bfdcb5$8ea91460$ee5608c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] one track mind Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:51:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk plucker, he of the filthy mind , wrote: > Just found this at > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_801000/801086.stm. Some of > the images are strangely erotic. Or is that just me? Mind you it's > probably worth pointing out so that some people on this list can continue to > get their kicks. mmm as robert robinson used to say on 'ask the family' 'i see what you mean' although it was pretty obvious that he didnt just found this site www.schoolgirls-filthy-pervy-sheep-alsations.dk which you might find strangely erotic ian > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 13:48:26 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 13:48:29 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 13:33:34 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13612 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:33:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19201 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:33:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 3666 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:33:33 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29940 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 12:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 29758 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 12:32:38 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 29755 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:32:38 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:32:38 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.136] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135SdQ-0000of-00; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:32:37 +0100 Message-ID: <005a01bfdd0f$5294e1c0$885908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "Tesco" Cc: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] one track mind Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:34:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk either you are taking the piss or you competely failed to appreciate that i just made that up. there are so many zillion porn sites out there (or so i am led to believe) that i suppose that perhaps there really is a site out there with that name ian tesco wrote: > I also found this posting to be very offensive. The fact that you either use > or searched for this material is sick. > > >I must say I was extremely disturbed by the sound of the URL Mr. gomeche > >posted, it sounded the sort of thing that may well contain material illegal > >in the UK (certainly as it was a non UK URL) & as such I would obviously > not > >visit it. > > >I will not reproduce the URL here as I want to go nowhere near that > >offensive mail. > > >Did anyone accidentally click on the list & find illegal material? is this > >person trying to entice people into downloading illegal porn. > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 13:48:28 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 13:48:30 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 13:42:13 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17687 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:42:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20064 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:42:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 6041 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:42:10 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:42:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2208 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 12:40:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 1631 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 12:39:14 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 1495 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:38:40 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:38:40 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.136] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135SjH-0000x7-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:38:39 +0100 Message-ID: <006501bfdd10$2a8d9400$885908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" References: Subject: [mt] a hypocrite writes Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:40:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk challelder wrote > Well, I suppose I must have a filthy mind too as I could see what plucker > was getting at. > > I must say I was extremely disturbed by the sound of the URL Mr. gomeche > posted, it sounded the sort of thing that may well contain material illegal > in the UK (certainly as it was a non UK URL) & as such I would obviously not > visit it. > > I will not reproduce the URL here as I want to go nowhere near that > offensive mail. > > Did anyone accidentally click on the list & find illegal material? is this > person trying to entice people into downloading illegal porn. > > As the father of a young girl who attends school I find any mention of sites > involving schoolgirl sex totally repulsive. > > The posting of that URL has caused me great distress, I would like to > suggest that the list manager removes Mr. Gomeche for posting material that > causes great offence, and further that he is not allowed to resubscribe. > > I do not wish mail from Mr. Gomeche privately, but if he would mail onlist I > would like the full details of how to get someone redcarded for sending > offensive mail, I am sure his ISP would be interested that he posts URLs > suggestive of paedophilia & bestiality & suggests someone visit that URL. > > > Just to repeat: > Mr. list Manager, please remove from the list this person who encourages > access to potentially paedophile & bestiality material. > > Off for a lie down until I feel better. > > he can not be serious surely? [i think he is -ed] loads of you send me extremely viscious nasty flame both on and off list including a massive amount of obscence language and i post an obviously fabricated URL as a joke and you start going on about how offended you are and calling for my expulsion. if you dont want your daughter to view all the vile stuff on this list (the obscenities i mean) then i suggest that you unsubscribe and spare your tender sensibilities ian wha +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 14:24:28 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 14:24:36 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 13:51:44 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22075 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:51:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20957 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:52:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 7351 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:51:42 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:51:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3611 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 12:49:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3214 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 12:48:24 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 3179 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:48:18 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:48:18 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.136] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135Ssa-0001C9-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:48:17 +0100 Message-ID: <006b01bfdd11$82a99e80$885908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] pink floyd Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:49:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk mr looy (nothing about the law for a change) wrote : > Oh yes...I know Dave Gilmour's daughter and she says he doesn't like you > either. > > Ms Handbag > > PS - This is a joke but I'm sure I could probably ask him if you want me > to as he's a friend of bits of my family > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, ian gomeche wrote: > > > > glad we got that right. i saw the world premier of atom heart mother > > complete with cannon fire > > at 2 a.m. in a cold wet field with 400,000 other people at the bath festival > > in 1970. > > > > top that you festival goers > > if you really DO know dave gilmour, then you should definitely ask him about Bath 1970 as it really was a milestone gig for them. the airplaine tried to play at about 3 a.m. the next night and had to give up after a few minutes as the storms were causing their bass player to keep getting electric shocks. the congestion approacing the site was so great that many of the groups could not reach the site on time. at one point donovan ,who was sitting in the crown and who was not billed to appear, was dragged on stage and made to play for three hours while they were waiting for groups to arrive. topping the bill was led zepplin who were excellent. the line up was so strong (a lot of top west coast bands that the floyd were nowhere near top of the bill!) i have never seen so many coke cans in my life (alcohol was banned if i recall) ian +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 14:24:29 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 14:24:36 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 13:53:38 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23040 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:53:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21161 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:54:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 8245 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:53:36 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 4569 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 12:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4165 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 12:51:46 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 4136 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 12:51:40 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 12:51:40 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.136] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135Svm-0001GC-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: <007501bfdd11$f86c68a0$885908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" References: Subject: Re: [mt] moody blues Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:53:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i never said i HAD committed a port scan. in any castport scans are NOT illegal just generally viewed as a hostile act. not the same thing at all. now why dont you give it a rest hey? who has little IT knowledge then? ian van loony wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, ian gomeche wrote lots of self congratulatory piffle > including: > > > breaching the telecoms act 1984 > > (which i have read, have you -thought not) is a criminal offence. > > It is a criminal offence, which you are guilty of. DOS attacks are illegal > and you comitted one by your port scan, something you freely admitted to > on list. > > For someone who claims both in the same breath to be a Journalist and an > IT Professional, you seem to have precious little knowledge of either. > > Without Prejudice, > > Scott > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | > |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| > |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| > |Should you have any queries contact | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Mark Thomas Mailing List | |To unsubscribe send mail to with the following| |command in the body of the email message: 'unsubscribe mark-thomas'.| |Should you have any queries contact | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 14:24:31 2000 Received: by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (mbox [redacted]) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Jun 23 14:24:39 2000) X-From_: daemon Fri Jun 23 14:19:03 2000 Received: from ultra2.uk2net.com (ultra2.uk2net.com [195.224.160.41]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06542 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:19:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from agent57.gbnet.net (agent57.gbnet.net [194.70.126.12]) by ultra2.uk2net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA23981 for <[redacted]>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:19:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 9902 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 13:19:01 -0000 Received: from ns.gbnet.net (qmailr@194.70.126.10) by agent57.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 13:19:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6558 invoked by uid 610); 23 Jun 2000 13:18:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 6382 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2000 13:17:50 -0000 Delivered-To: mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net Received: (qmail 6379 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 13:17:49 -0000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (195.8.69.94) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 13:17:49 -0000 Received: from [195.8.89.136] (helo=oemcomputer) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135TLA-0001zZ-00 for mark-thomas-digest@[redacted].net; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: <011401bfdd15$a2e60ae0$885908c3@oemcomputer> From: "ian gomeche" To: "mark thomas" Subject: [mt] fishpaste Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:19:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mark-thomas@gbnet.net Precedence: bulk i did say that that the more some of you keep harping on then the less chance there was of the complaints to the police concerning mr fishpaste being withdrawn by myself. as mr loony does not seem to compute it and he still is talking complete bollocks about the law (does the fool really believe that port scans are illegal?) then i am afraid to say that th